Program Key Fob Help
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Hummm...I was really looking for a way to avoid the dealer as I already have an extra fob to replace one that was lost. I have not had much luck with them from getting things taken care of including getting parts...I have been waiting for weeks for one of the aluminum keys that was in the lost fob...
I wonder ifthis a courtesy programming or a billing opportunity?
I wonder ifthis a courtesy programming or a billing opportunity?
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Out of curiosity, where did you get the replacement fob if not from the dealer? I'm asking because used fobs I've seen sold on e-bay haven't been divorced from their original instrument packs and if the divorce hasn't happened they wont work on any other car EVER.
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Fob was bought on ebay...guess I'll find out whether divorced or not. I find it hard to believe that jaguar has so clopped up their keys that you have to spend several hundred dollars just to get a replacement key and you have to get it from them (I have had several other jags). Forgive me while I rant and rave a little but I'm just not that impressed that in the XKR that I have and don't really see the value in alot of the design foilbles of it. I can almost understand the dealer being required to program it to avoid an unscupulus valet getting your key...but locking out a fob if not divorced is just a lame attempt at cornering the new fob market. This key boondoggle is just another instance of Jaguar taking my time and money.In all fairness maybe it is just the willingness of the industry as a whole to put it to all of us...guess we all payourmoney andtake our medicine...
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I don't think it's a market cornering attempt. I think it's a security issue with the keyless design. There are several manufacturers using this system(not sure if they're sourced from same vendor) now and they all require the old key to be divorced before it can be used on another vehicle. As long as the divorce/programming is done properly there's not a problem. The problem is that when the key is not divorced from the original instrument pack it was programmed to it becomes SCRAP and can never be programmed to another vehicle unless access to the original vehicle is possible to perform the divorce. If new keys were programmed to the car the fob came from the divorce can never be performed.
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Fob was bought on ebay...guess I'll find out whether divorced or not. I find it hard to believe that jaguar has so clopped up their keys that you have to spend several hundred dollars just to get a replacement key and you have to get it from them (I have had several other jags). Forgive me while I rant and rave a little but I'm just not that impressed that in the XKR that I have and don't really see the value in alot of the design foilbles of it. I can almost understand the dealer being required to program it to avoid an unscupulus valet getting your key...but locking out a fob if not divorced is just a lame attempt at cornering the new fob market. This key boondoggle is just another instance of Jaguar taking my time and money.In all fairness maybe it is just the willingness of the industry as a whole to put it to all of us...guess we all payourmoney andtake our medicine...
I have been waiting for over 2 weeks for a new smart key from the dealership for my 2008 XK. I now understand the frustration that you have to go through. Did you get the fob from ebay to work? What did you do at the end to get your key fob programmed? Any advise from you will be appreciated.
I am thinking about going to a local locksmith specializing in auto remotes. Maybe they will be faster at it than the dealership.
Thanks!
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Well...I had 2 extra fobs (three total) that I took into dealer. Basically they said that the extra two were useless and that they would replace one of them under warranty (which I might add was them doing a good job as a dealer and made me happy...but I would beware that I have heard that not all dealers would be so helpful).
I would also suggest to check price before you get roped into a several hundred dollar boondoggle. From what I understand they cost several hundred dollars and then they add insult to injury for several hundred to program. Know yoru costs before you turn them loose.
I would also suggest to check price before you get roped into a several hundred dollar boondoggle. From what I understand they cost several hundred dollars and then they add insult to injury for several hundred to program. Know yoru costs before you turn them loose.
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https://www.keylessentryremotefob.co...ki-7833614.htm
Take it to a locksmith and they should be able to duplicate the one in your current keyfob.
#12
If you have the JLR SDD software, you can program another FOB for your car but without it being "Divorced" as you say, it will not be recognized when placed in the cradle for emergency starts. You can clean a FOB if you use the JLR Doctor but for wanting to program one or two keys, the 3999 pound price tag is hard to justify.
Bottom line, you can use a purchased E-Bay FOB or buy a new one (This is what I prefer) and program yourself, then have the locksmith cut the emergency key. I have tried many different products and I found this the best method.
Bottom line, you can use a purchased E-Bay FOB or buy a new one (This is what I prefer) and program yourself, then have the locksmith cut the emergency key. I have tried many different products and I found this the best method.
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Let me save you some $$. I might agree with the fob itself, but the small key that opens the door and trunk can be had for $11. It will be a cold day in hell before I spend $184 for this!
https://www.keylessentryremotefob.co...ki-7833614.htm
Take it to a locksmith and they should be able to duplicate the one in your current keyfob.
https://www.keylessentryremotefob.co...ki-7833614.htm
Take it to a locksmith and they should be able to duplicate the one in your current keyfob.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ey-fob-211409/
#14
That link is to an incorrect valet key. I don't understand why you resurrected such an old thread when there are so many more recent threads.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ey-fob-211409/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ey-fob-211409/
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If you have the JLR SDD software, you can program another FOB for your car but without it being "Divorced" as you say, it will not be recognized when placed in the cradle for emergency starts. You can clean a FOB if you use the JLR Doctor but for wanting to program one or two keys, the 3999 pound price tag is hard to justify.
Bottom line, you can use a purchased E-Bay FOB or buy a new one (This is what I prefer) and program yourself, then have the locksmith cut the emergency key. I have tried many different products and I found this the best method.
Bottom line, you can use a purchased E-Bay FOB or buy a new one (This is what I prefer) and program yourself, then have the locksmith cut the emergency key. I have tried many different products and I found this the best method.
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That was some time ago I posted that comment, I had to go back to my achieves for this. I indicated at the end of the comment that I could not justify purchasing the product (Software and OBDII module) for the amount of times I would use it. Back on November 29 2016 I was informed by responds from my inquirer to Simon Touch as to the full capabilities of the JLR Doctor and programming was of the forefront of its capabilities.
"Hello
IN USA we had a distributor but not anymore for now
we have in europe and other countries too .
JLR Doctor Range / Jaguar 2010 2015 Price 2500 euro
JLR Doctor Range / Jaguar 2010 2016 Price 3500 euro
Device has 2 functions, plug and play key programming without PC and JLR Doctor PC Version that have the below functions.
http://www.XXXXX
Shipping cost 60 euro with express courier.
We accept bank transfer or western union.
IN Lebanon paypal doesnt exist
Once you confirm your order, send me your details and how you prefer to pay to send you the invoice. "
My last communication was on January 8th 2018 when I was confirming the renewal abilities of the SRK Renewal Key Tool and they downgraded the tools abilities to the 433Mhz FOBs I found a physical IC replacement was a better alternative. At this time they still claimed that you can reset the older FOB with the PCF7953A - KR55WK49244 boards. I have no idea what they are up to now and their capabilities.
I also see this is your first post, I would recommend popping up to say "HI" and a bit about yourself before having a Mod remove the post.
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Martin S,
Welcome to the Forum. I noted from your Public Profile that this was your first post. In order to give you specific advice, we need more information.
We know that you're in Mexico, have a 2007 XK, and want to program a Smartkey yourself.
One quirk is that there were 2 different Smartkey fobs in 2007 - (1) single channel and (2) multichannel - and they're not interchangeable. For details and the VIN numbers, read this old thread and particularly Posts ## 16, 18, and 27:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ion%85-171095/
It appears that you have only one Smartkey that works and that you bought a used Smartkey that you want to program yourself. For that used Smartkey to work, it must be the same (single channel or multi channel) as your original Smartkey. How do you know? From your VIN. Odds are that your used Smartkey is multi channel because there are so many more of them.
Programming a used Smartkey requires the use of the proprietary Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) software or a compatible aftermarket system. Those systems aren't cheap, so you're better off to find a local independent Jaguar technician or locksmith who has SDD and can do the programming.
The above is just my guess as to your problem. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and let us know the details of your problem.
Stuart
Welcome to the Forum. I noted from your Public Profile that this was your first post. In order to give you specific advice, we need more information.
We know that you're in Mexico, have a 2007 XK, and want to program a Smartkey yourself.
One quirk is that there were 2 different Smartkey fobs in 2007 - (1) single channel and (2) multichannel - and they're not interchangeable. For details and the VIN numbers, read this old thread and particularly Posts ## 16, 18, and 27:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ion%85-171095/
It appears that you have only one Smartkey that works and that you bought a used Smartkey that you want to program yourself. For that used Smartkey to work, it must be the same (single channel or multi channel) as your original Smartkey. How do you know? From your VIN. Odds are that your used Smartkey is multi channel because there are so many more of them.
Programming a used Smartkey requires the use of the proprietary Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) software or a compatible aftermarket system. Those systems aren't cheap, so you're better off to find a local independent Jaguar technician or locksmith who has SDD and can do the programming.
The above is just my guess as to your problem. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and let us know the details of your problem.
Stuart
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Martin S,
Welcome to the Forum. I noted from your Public Profile that this was your first post. In order to give you specific advice, we need more information.
We know that you're in Mexico, have a 2007 XK, and want to program a Smartkey yourself.
One quirk is that there were 2 different Smartkey fobs in 2007 - (1) single channel and (2) multichannel - and they're not interchangeable. For details and the VIN numbers, read this old thread and particularly Posts ## 16, 18, and 27:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ion%85-171095/
It appears that you have only one Smartkey that works and that you bought a used Smartkey that you want to program yourself. For that used Smartkey to work, it must be the same (single channel or multi channel) as your original Smartkey. How do you know? From your VIN. Odds are that your used Smartkey is multi channel because there are so many more of them.
Programming a used Smartkey requires the use of the proprietary Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) software or a compatible aftermarket system. Those systems aren't cheap, so you're better off to find a local independent Jaguar technician or locksmith who has SDD and can do the programming.
The above is just my guess as to your problem. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and let us know the details of your problem.
Stuart
Welcome to the Forum. I noted from your Public Profile that this was your first post. In order to give you specific advice, we need more information.
We know that you're in Mexico, have a 2007 XK, and want to program a Smartkey yourself.
One quirk is that there were 2 different Smartkey fobs in 2007 - (1) single channel and (2) multichannel - and they're not interchangeable. For details and the VIN numbers, read this old thread and particularly Posts ## 16, 18, and 27:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ion%85-171095/
It appears that you have only one Smartkey that works and that you bought a used Smartkey that you want to program yourself. For that used Smartkey to work, it must be the same (single channel or multi channel) as your original Smartkey. How do you know? From your VIN. Odds are that your used Smartkey is multi channel because there are so many more of them.
Programming a used Smartkey requires the use of the proprietary Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) software or a compatible aftermarket system. Those systems aren't cheap, so you're better off to find a local independent Jaguar technician or locksmith who has SDD and can do the programming.
The above is just my guess as to your problem. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and let us know the details of your problem.
Stuart
Actually I bought a 2007 XK really cheap, so I thought but without any keys, all were lost so I have had 3 professional locksmiths trying to program new ones I bought from Ebay and have tried both the 313 and 433MHZ with no luck. tThey are not using DSS but a device brand name Autmel or something like that. Yesterday I noticed in the trunk (boot in England) the keylessentry / alarm antenna was disconnected and i reconnected it but still nothing. However after reconnecting only the 433MHZ was tried and no luck. I will have the locksmith try the 313 sometime tomorrow. Also a bit of info, when exiting the vehicle thru the driver door a message on the instrument cluster reads"Shifter not in park"not sure if this has something to do with it, I am connected to my Mercedes C-Class thru jumper cables to keep the voltage at 14.4 during programming and nothing. Can i remove the keyless module and program lthat way?
Thanks for any info
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