Thanks for sharing those part numbers, attached are pics of the back lower side of the front brakes and also some of the rear. There were no visible PNs on the bracket in the rear, unless its all taken apart i reckon... Hope these help.

 

These are great to help my assembly. You are my
Workshop manual! Did you perchance take one picture of the rear straight on from outside the car looking directly at the rear set up?"

 

rear suspension stay bolt

This project is clearly a day by day with no manual or onsite vehicle to follow. But, Mpower's pics are helping more than he/she knows. When i sat down to fit the adapter bracket it was several minutes, a walk away to the computer and back again before I could even tell what side was what. Cambo referencing the part numbers told me at least which bracket went on which side but this bracket is a real piece of work. Two bolts secure it to the location of the standard calipers. A third securing point is a tail piece that sits on top of a knuckle joint going to a stabilizer arm. I am attaching one of Mpower's pics edited showing that it requires a special bolt, "of course!" The standard shoulder bolt is 100mm long but no long enought to get to many threads once it has to go through the tail piece and down through the knuckle. So after searching online, I trekked off to my local dealer where I have made solid friends with the parts department.

When they see me, they know to get the secret SVR vin number we came up with to reference. Sure enought the CCB using a different bolt sure to be longer by 5mm than the standard. IN the picture I have noted standard part number and super secret much more expensive bolt. Have to wait two days for correct bolt so moving forward remains slooooooow!
rear suspension stay bolt

Note in photo green area is the bracket portion sitting on the suspension knuckle.

 

stwsam, glad the pics were helpful! I don't have a pic from the outside looking directly at the rear setup, but I'll be getting new tire in a week or two and I will take a pic for you then...

 

Here, hope these help.

 

Just coming back to the fronts for a moment....

In the JEPC there is a cooling duct shown which goes to the top of the caliper. Actually in your photo above you can see the two threaded mounting holes where this duct is mounted, as per the drawing from the JEPC (below).



Is this duct not present on cars with the CC brakes? I must admit I don't remember seeing it in any pictures of other cars...

The part numbers for this duct;

T2R15213 , right hand
T2R15214 , left hand

The screws #14 are an M6 x 16mm pan head screw "C2G1537 - cooling duct to caliper" there are 8x per car.

Funny thing is these ducts are shown as "no longer available" so I guess they mustn't have worked very well, or maybe simply not needed?

 

Cambo, see post # 2 in this thread, and the attached pdf: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...type-r-174284/
It says, quote:
"If your F-TYPE is fitted with the Jaguar Carbon Ceramic Braking
system (CCM), the fitment of brake ducts is recommended (part nos. T2R-15213 and T2R-15214). These should be fitted for track use only (they are not advised for road use) and are straightforward to fit and remove. They assist with brake cooling on the track and are available from authorised Jaguar dealers."
So those ducts are an option meant for track use only.

 

Aha! Thanks Kim.

But you can't order them anymore by the looks of things, well when i tried to look them up in a few online shops, they come up "no longer available"

 

I believe that someone tried ordering them, and came to the same conclusion.

 

Cheers, i'm just trying to get my head around the ducts as i'd like to add them to an XKR that has the 400mm 6-piston Alcons on it.

The XKR-S GT also has some ducts listed, with F-Type part numbers.

T2R6254, left, replaced by C2Z29960
T2R6253, right, replaced by C2Z29959

£14 each so won't break the bank

They are curved in the drawing so looks like they go on the lower wishbone, like the ones in this pic;



But there are no other ducts for the GT, like the ones that go on the sway bar.

I see the ducts that go on the sway bar listed under the F-Type, these are the ones you mentioned before T2R10498 and T2R10497, but the ducts that go on the wishbone are not shown in my version of JEPC for the CCB's on an F-Type...

EDIT

Those part numbers;
T2R6254, left, replaced by C2Z29960
T2R6253, right, replaced by C2Z29959

Are shown for the F-Type with steel brakes, and the drawing for the F-Type shows the same picture as the "disc shield" from the XKR-S and it's a metal part which is riveted on, and no differentiation between RWD or AWD, but in your picture you can clearly see they are marked RWD X152...

Very confusing... I think there is another mistake in the JEPC...

Here is the drawing for the XKR-S GT, item 8 is the one i'm talking about on the wishbone.



That one is not shown in the drawing for the CCB or Steel braked F-Types, but the same partnumbers are listed with a different drawing (same drawing as item 7 for the XKR-S GT, which is a "disc shield")

Maybe this is another mounting point for those big ducts that used to go over the calipers?

The ones on the sway bar are in the JEPC, but not the ones on the wishbones, did you happen to note any part numbers on the ducts that mount to the wishbones?

 

I also tried finding those ducts that were mentioned in the "tracking the f-type" document that Cambo also posted the pic for, as I was curious what they looked like and their price. Could not find any info on them online or otherwise and sort of gave up.
If anyone could get their hands on a pair I'm sure they can be duplicated with carbon or fiberglass with out a great deal of difficulty...

 

The brakes are installed and almost bled out but still need parking brake calipers to get on the road. Mpowerr's pictures are extremely valuable if you notice his brake pad is identified as brembo 07.4183.37. If my google search works correctly they cross to late Model Type -s with electrified parking brake part number C2C13800 which are about 50.00 a set. Jag dealer quoting part number in CCB call out as 450.00 a set.

Now looking for e-brake from S-Type to compare as a possible interface. Cambo, any thoughts?

 

S-Type? No, it's not the same as the F-Type system.

S-Type only had the central park brake motor and the park brake calipers were cable-actuated like all other earlier model Jags.

Actually I think you'll find that the park brake pads themselves are the same for pretty much all vehicles that use a separate Brembo park brake caliper. Not just Jag but also other makes as well. The pads for the S-Type R & XJR with Brembos, and XKR with Alcons is the same p/n.

Does there not have to be a special pad compound to be compatible with the CC rotors? The park brake pads for the XKR-S GT are not the same p/n as the XKR with Alcons...

Regarding the park brake calipers, Jag models that have used a separate Brembo park brake caliper are;

S-Type R with Brembo's, 2003-2005
XJR and SuperV8 with Brembo's, 2003-2005
XKR with Alcon's, 2008-2009 (this caliper is interchangeable with Astons)
XKR-S GT with CCB's, 2014

These vehicles all have a cable-driven park brake caliper.

The F-Type is the only Jag to have the electric actuators directly on the calipers.

 

Regarding the park brake pads, it would appear that Aston uses the exact same pad on their Steel braked cars as the Carbon Ceramic braked ones...

For example the DBS with CCB, and the DB9 with Steel, same pad 4G43-2C562-BA, and from the pictures they look to be the same shape as the ones used in the Jags, which is not surprising since the park brake calipers are all from Brembo.

The Aston pads are far cheaper than the Jag ones.

 

yes ordered a set out of the U.K. Today for 50.00 $ u.s including postage so that saves me 400.00. Figure pads were good as I crossed them of Mpowerr's markings. Search, wait goes on for parking calipers. But I have the pads now!!!

 

I have been looking at park brake calipers online, have not seen any others with the actuator directly on the caliper. I find it hard to believe that Jag would have a unique caliper, but it certainly looks that way...

EDIT

And I think the Jag part number differences for hand brake pads relate to what you get in box.

For the older Brembo/Alcon cars you only got four pads, as the pins and clips are separate items.

For the XKR-S GT you get pads, pins & clips all together.

For the F-Type you get pads, pins & clips all together as well.

I think... but still does not explain why the F-Type ones are £200, and the XKR-S GT ones are £950... for some friggen pads that you can buy in the aftermarket for $10 (to suit the Alcon cars)

 

Uk supplier emailed me this a.m that he has a set of calipers finally and should be enroute to me soon. Car is ready and waiting. Figured not a good idea to drive until parking brake system in place and functional. All the warning lights make a guy a bit nervous.

 

Really close before and after. Still awaiting parking calipers!



Before CCB

 

Actually you raise an interesting point, I suspect that the parking brake will have to be recalibrated once you get the calipers in, this can only be done with the dealers diagnostic tool SDD.

One of the XKR guys did a retrofit of the Alcon systems and hit this problem, the park brakes jammed on because they weren't set to the "service position" before changing to the separate caliper. Lucky he had SDD on hand to make the reset.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...2/#post1610995

There are standalone dongle which set the park brake to the service position, like this DA-Dongle EPBR (Jaguar Land Rover Electronic Park Brake Release) ? Diagnostic Associates Ltd

I had the same problem with my XJR after I had a shop do the brakes on it, the hand brake was jammed on, had to be reset with the diagnostic tool.

I would not want to be driving a car with CCB's and the park brake jammed on...

EDIT

Or maybe take the car to the dealer, and get them to fit the park brake calipers and make the reset, probably cost the same as you buying the reset tool...

 

Dealer a good option. Nice to have them review
The installation as a second set of eyes. Good thinking!