Summer Tire Ambient Temp Question
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Summer Tire Ambient Temp Question
OK...so I live in southern California where Temperature is mostly mild..above 50 degrees F. Even in So Cal we can get mornings in the high 30's. On very rare occasions, I"m in the high 20 degree range in lower mountain elevations. My F-Type is my one and only...and my daily driver. I"m curious as to drivers with more summer tire experience than my self...to what degree have you been affected by the "glass transition" of summer tires...where Tire Rack says between 40-40 degrees, the rubber changes properties and looses traction? and If during those rare low temp episodes I can get away with driving slow and easy... or not. I have P-Zero's on now, but would like to eventually switch to MPSS. Michelin also has the equivalent in "all season"..would this be a better choice for me? I mostly enjoy 'Canyon Carving" and spirited when safe to do so driving. I'm not looking to trim seconds off of track times :-) I'm also interested in the better wet grip of summer tires, since we get a fair amount of rain...at least lately :-)
Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CRS
Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CRS
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We have similar temperature conditions in coastal North Carolina. I did a lot of questioning when I had a Porsche with summer tires and the pretty uniform response was that if you take it easy on summer tires in temps 20+ you won't have a problem, especially after the tires warm up. Don't try any spirited driving when it is that cold. There are other trade-offs with All Season tires that you may regret when you really want the Jaguar to roar in warmer weather.
I haven't had a single tense moment on summer tires in our brief cold spells.
Larry
I haven't had a single tense moment on summer tires in our brief cold spells.
Larry
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OK...so I live in southern California where Temperature is mostly mild..above 50 degrees F. Even in So Cal we can get mornings in the high 30's. On very rare occasions, I"m in the high 20 degree range in lower mountain elevations. My F-Type is my one and only...and my daily driver. I"m curious as to drivers with more summer tire experience than my self...to what degree have you been affected by the "glass transition" of summer tires...where Tire Rack says between 40-40 degrees, the rubber changes properties and looses traction? and If during those rare low temp episodes I can get away with driving slow and easy... or not. I have P-Zero's on now, but would like to eventually switch to MPSS. Michelin also has the equivalent in "all season"..would this be a better choice for me? I mostly enjoy 'Canyon Carving" and spirited when safe to do so driving. I'm not looking to trim seconds off of track times :-) I'm also interested in the better wet grip of summer tires, since we get a fair amount of rain...at least lately :-)
Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CRS
Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated.
Cheers
CRS
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We have similar temperature conditions in coastal North Carolina. I did a lot of questioning when I had a Porsche with summer tires and the pretty uniform response was that if you take it easy on summer tires in temps 20+ you won't have a problem, especially after the tires warm up. Don't try any spirited driving when it is that cold. There are other trade-offs with All Season tires that you may regret when you really want the Jaguar to roar in warmer weather.
I haven't had a single tense moment on summer tires in our brief cold spells.
Larry
I haven't had a single tense moment on summer tires in our brief cold spells.
Larry
CRS
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+1 in Maryland. Was driving fairly aggressively this morning on PSSs in the high 20's. Not nearly as much traction as when above 50, but not dangerous. I've driven both PSS's and P-zeros extensively in freezing weather. Just pay attention.
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This November I drove 2.5 hours in 25-29 degree F temperatures on the oem summer tires. Highway driving in hilly terrain, with frost. I took it easy and there was not a lot of traffic. I don't know how tires would respond with a quick manuveur . I test drove f types in winter 20 degree weather. Doesn't inspire confidence due to the conventional wisdom. The real test would be to push the car somewhere in a safe location to truly test the limits. I worry about frosty patches on bridges, overpasses and the like.
Also my tires were under 5k miles, not worn at all.
Also my tires were under 5k miles, not worn at all.
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I keep summer tires on my car year round and like you use the F-Type as my daily driver. I've never had a problem driving the F-Type even in the high 20s, low 30s. I just drive somewhat cautiously and account for the fact that I won't have particularly good grip if I need to make a sudden maneuver.
However, if it's icy.. I stay indoors or take uber/lyft. Summer tires and ice is a very very very bad combination.
However, if it's icy.. I stay indoors or take uber/lyft. Summer tires and ice is a very very very bad combination.
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