I kept looking on line and eventually found a module (for the USA) that was just around $200. Also, some other people on this thread were looking for OEM microphones. My searching also found a new, upgraded (outside mount) OEM mic for under $45 US. It took a couple of months to find both items, but I just kept looking and also researched options. For example, the UK or Canadian versions of the module would be fine for the USA and vice versa. Different voice I would imagine.

My overall system (module, mic and antenna) cost under $300 and took about 30 minutes to install after about 10 hours of research. It was well worth it. Also, you will want to voice module if you don't already have it. I also found an original for under $250. You can use the Bluetooth module without the voice module, but then you lose the ability to perform and voice commands. Frankly, you really want to have both in place. They work great and sound great to the people on the other end of the phone conversation.

 

What is the part number for the voice module?

 

I successfully fitted Voice and BT to my 2002 X-Type (X400) last week :-) It didn’t go entirely smoothly but I got it in the end. All parts were sourced cheaply from either a popular online auction site; you know the one, or the local scrappy. Figs 16.3, 20.3 and 20.4 of the Electrical Guide shows the job.This is written for cars with nav.

FYI…wherever I’ve put ‘?’ in any part numbers it should be substituted for the part version (recorded in letters) and it shouldn’t really matter when fitting but I’d always try to go for a latest version you can find. My as-fitted part numbers are at the bottom.

Cabling: Mine had the old 5 wire phone only harness fitted so I changed that for the Voice and Phone 8 wire version (Part No. UNKNOWN; I didn’t write down the part number and I’ve put the Jag back together now…) required for BT. I also needed two D2B link leads (two of Part No. 1X43-14B242). The end of my cabin microphone harness was really hidden and tightly taped up with padding in the roof console- I nearly didn’t find it and abandoned the fit.

Microphone: There are two OEM microphones options; the internal overhead light console one (Part No. 186211 – only numbers on mine…) and the ‘better’ external one that sites next to the light console (Part No. C2C29785???, where in this case ‘???’ is your vehicle’s internal colour code). I fitted the original internal microphone as I preferred it cosmetically. I’ve found it picks up Voice fine and seems acceptable for BT phone although you can sound a little distant sometimes with road noise but it’s far from unusable as some people say. It works, its fine, I’ve kept it. There is a Jaguar Technical Bulletin for the microphone swap if you’re interested.

Voice Activation Control Module (VACM): After a few days I’ve found voicebit of a gimmick but if you’re going for BT you might as well add it for a few extra £ at the same time. Voice picks up commands fine despite my accent. Read the manual to get used to the commands and do the in-car voice training. You may need to select voice as an option on the 1971 menu for it to work. If you don’t fit Voice you need to buy an OEM Jumper cable (PartNo. 2R8T-18B938-??) or make one.

Phone/Bluetooth Modules: There are 3 module variants to understand here; the older silver module (Part No. 1X43-10D893-??), the newer silver module (Part No. 2W93-19K350-??) and the new black module (Part No. 7W93-10D893-??). You may need to use the 1971 menu to configure Phone like Voice above. 3 Module options:

1. The new black one was fitted to later cars and is a Phone and BT module all-in-one. It is better as it allows multiple phones to be paired, it displays the name of the paired phone’s network provider and shows the signal strength (out of 5 bars) of the paired phone; that’s the carrier’s signal strength as displayed the phone and not the phone-to-car BT signal strength. You’ll need a Bluetooth antenna which plugs into the black module and can be OEM (Part No. 9X43-19C024-??) or something aftermarket.

2. The newer silver module known as the Portable Support Electronics (PSE) module has to be combined with the Bluetooth Upgrade Module (BTUM) (Part No.3W83-14B409-??) to get Bluetooth. The BTUM plugs into the PH11 (10 Way, darkgrey/black, ‘CELLULAR TELEPHONE LINK LEAD’) connector of the phone harness. This fit only allows one phone to be paired at once and despite having multiple signal bars (like the black unit) on the display it only uses the 1st bar for normal operation; 0/5 bars highlighted = no connected BT phone and 1/5 bars highlighted = connected BT phone. The remaining 4 bars are always blank :-( . More info about this fit can be found here.

3. The old silver one only works for the wired handset and is to be ignored when retrofitting. That is unless you’re crazy and want a wired handset in your car instead of Bluetooth.


Mt fit
I went with the new black fit first. Connected it up and it worked (pair phones, make and receive calls etc..) except I had the PECUS ERROR B message displayed on the dash with the red and amber warning lights flashing abouttwice a second at me all the time. Testing proved it was the black module causing the error. Despite the error the car started and worked but you wouldn’t drive it around with that distraction in front of you. Some forum posts tell you to go to Jag or more likely a good specialist to get the module programmed to the car (VIN no. match or something…). Anyway, my black unit wouldn’t take the programming :-(. So annoying to be stopped at this stage especially as the phone functionality worked completely fine but as least they didn’t change me anything. There are some posts mentioning that some VIN Nos. may just be too early for the black unit to accept and I guess that’s true for mine. I don’t know the VIN or production date where this doesn’t become a problem. Sorry.

Not detoured I swapped the black unit out for the newer of the PSE and BTUM fit and that worked fine with no errors; plug and play all the way. I just put the BTUM in the boot with the rest of the electronics stack instead of under the arm rest with no ill-effects. BT and Voice is working fine with my iPhone5S.

Finished fit with costs:

Microphone – 186211, £10
Voicemodule – 2R8F-14B292-BD, £25
PSE module – 2W93-19K350-AC, £20
BTUM –3W83-14B409-AC, £50
Rear harness – UNKNOWN, £20
Fibre link lead (1) – 1X43-14B242, £0 (had one)
Fibre link lead (2) – 1X43-14B242, £10
Extras – a few nuts and bolts. £0


Extras for possible resale:

Black Phone/BT module – 7W93-10D893-AB, £75
Antenna – 9X43-19C024-AA, £20
Voice Jumper cable – 2R8T-18B938-BC, £0 (came free with other stuff)

Voice and BT in an early X Type for £135 net. Functional as well as cosmetically nicer and probably cheaper than fitting an aftermarket system. I’m happy.

One odd thing I noticed today is that the Voice voice is male but the nav voice is female.

 

Welcome to the forum co77on,

I've deleted your duplicate of this post and spent a considerable time editing the hundreds of words that had no breaks in between them. Your links were also invalid on the forum and I've removed them.

Please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some information about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.

Graham

 

Thanks GGG. Sorry about the breaks but it looked fine beforeposting. Compatibility issues withmobile platforms perhaps? Anyway, thanksagain and i hope this post is better.
A few weeks in now and I can’tunderstand how I managed without BT in that car before. As long as you’re only interested in the basicsit’s a good option. No mic issues using theinternal one.
Howerver, on the Voice side of things I’ve hardly pressed the button since installation. I guess itwould have been amazing (and an expensive option) back in the day but we’respoilt by the likes and of Siri and Alexa now. Hands free control is a bonus but the trade-off is that it’s quicker touse the buttons in nearly every case. I don’tregret fitting it but I wouldn’t spend too much if you’re thinking about aretro-fit yourself. At least if you gofor it with BT you don’t need to worry about the jumper cable and it’s another fittedoption when selling the car.
On to the next job; maybe folding mirrors…

 

Still without breaks between some words.

Graham

 

If anyone wants to make this upgrade with the new module, I had some mounting brackets made to fit the new module in the same location as the old one.

I'll let the pictures do the talking;







I also have a couple of the other brackets to mount the new phone module on the side of the media stack.

Send me a PM can post them anywhere.

 

Very nice Cambo

 

Hey guys - I know it's an old post, but I thought I'd try. I'm looking for a quick n easy way to stream bluetooth music from an iPhone 6s to my stock '07 XK convertable.

Any ideas? Plug-ins, add-ons, replacements, etc?

 

Do a search for the Venelin box, it will let you replace your cd changer with a bluetooth streaming device. Works great

 

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...ptical-134964/

It is Veffremov not Venelin. Look at the above thread.

 

The Bluetooth connectivity of our cars seem to be an eternal topic, given the age of this thread and still posts. And I have to admit that the first thing that googled me to this page was Bluetooth too.
When I consider that mine was built 4 years before the first iPhone was rolled out it's no wonder that some of the stuff is missing that I got accustomed to.
Thanks to all contributors on this thread I have about everything together to change my handset-equipped car to Bluetooth connectivity, hunted down a 7W93-10D893-AB in the UK for a reasonable price and understood how to connect. Just the antenna question is still open. I

Looks like the Bluetooth phone unit has a FAKRA C socket, which seems to be fairly usual for Bluetooth. I found a quite cheap antenna from VW/Audi for only 6 Euro with the correct coding, but it would locate the antenna in the trunk directly behind the phone unit.
Even if the XJ8 is a long car, the proximity to the dashboard should be ok for connection to the phone. Does anyone have first-hand experience how the connectivity to a Bluetooth antenna is when it's located i the trunk at the rack directly?
The socket on the 7W93-10D893-AB phone module
The Audi/VW antenna with the correct plug P/N 8P0 035 503For those who are interested also for other projects, below is still the list of FAKRA codes and what they intended for
FAKRA socket codes and their intended applications

 

My Bluetooth aerial, a BMW one, is in the trunk and I have occasional problems with connectivity. Mostly good connectivity.

Maybe it would be better if I moved it further forward up under the headliner.

 

Fish the antenna cable behind the trunk panel, above the amplifier and toward the bottom underside of the rear parcel shelf.

In the parcel shelf will be an opening which leads into a 'void' where the antenna can be fed.

If desired, place some stick tape on the antenna and it won't move around.

Somewhere on the forum, an antenna with a long cable is identified which fits the socket. A BMW, if I recall and is readily available on eBay for cheap.

Thanks
Mag

 

I have it under the parcel shelf already. I was thinking that I could position it fairly easily up by my head under the headliner with a long enough cable.
I have already persuaded myself that, when warmer weather gets here, I will do this.

 

Thanks to all for the answers so far.

jackra, do you mean that you still have the connectivity issues with the antenna under the parcel shelf?

My antenna will still take some days to arrive, and given the current infernal weather in Germany I'll not install it anytime soon, but I'll keep you updated about my outcome with different antenna-types and -positions.

 

Yes Aix I do have occasional connectivity problems even with the antenna under the parcel shelf.
However it also could be that the microphone that I installed is inside the overhead console. Others have said they get better results with an external microphone.

So what I am saying is that I can connect ok but the reception seems off sometimes.

 

Have you something to do with IDS ? I bought yesterday 7W93-10D893-AB to retrofit in 2005 S-type (with satnav,changer and "fixed" phone in armrest)

 

Yes the Bluetooth module should not have any interference with hard wired phone and vice versa . The module goes into the fibre optic circuit in your entertainment stack. 2004 hard wired phone would be directly connected to the amp or radio head unit. Most likely not fibre. But once you remove the left side panel in the boot, you'll find out for sure.

 

Originally I've 1x43-10d893-ah (no BT PSE) with working fibre system. If I change to newest"back box" only to do is connect to the harness ? (Of course I have BT antenna with fakra)