How do I change wheel bearing
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10-15-2007, 10:23 AM
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I have had to replace 3 front wheel bearings ... I bought the front knuckle complete. Jag calls it the "vertical link" It has the bearing installed and for the time saved it is not really over priced.
With some practice I am able to change the knuckle in about an hour now.
I would get a new axle nut at the same time.
to do the job at home, you need to lift both sides of the car ( only to get the sway bar off ) Before jacking you need to loosen the axle nut, not difficult with a long breaker bar and the right socket.
remove wheel, and then all the stuff attached to the strut.
Brake caliper,
tie rod,
sway bat link
maybe headlight levelling sensor (on LHS).
unplug ABS sensor wire.
Axle nut
and the lower ball joint bolt.
next you need to lower the subframe about an inch, this wil allow you to get the lower ball joint apart. Again this is easy, it just sounds daunting. Remember to only lower one side at a time or you will screw up the alignment of the front end. There are 2 big bolts holding the subframe to the bottom of the car. they are tight but easy with a breaker bar, the rear one has a bracket held with 10mm bolts to undo first.
Once everything is undone I use a big adjustable wrench to grab onto the lower control arm and I can push it down just enought to get the ball joint apart.
then the axle shaft slided out of the hub (tap with rubber hammer maybe) at this point the strut is hanging from the top mount, undo 3 nuts and the strut is out.
next you need to undo the bolt that clamps the knuckle to the strut. I tap a wedge in and the thing falls apart.
Send me an PM or email if you want to be able to call and discuss.
With some practice I am able to change the knuckle in about an hour now.
I would get a new axle nut at the same time.
to do the job at home, you need to lift both sides of the car ( only to get the sway bar off ) Before jacking you need to loosen the axle nut, not difficult with a long breaker bar and the right socket.
remove wheel, and then all the stuff attached to the strut.
Brake caliper,
tie rod,
sway bat link
maybe headlight levelling sensor (on LHS).
unplug ABS sensor wire.
Axle nut
and the lower ball joint bolt.
next you need to lower the subframe about an inch, this wil allow you to get the lower ball joint apart. Again this is easy, it just sounds daunting. Remember to only lower one side at a time or you will screw up the alignment of the front end. There are 2 big bolts holding the subframe to the bottom of the car. they are tight but easy with a breaker bar, the rear one has a bracket held with 10mm bolts to undo first.
Once everything is undone I use a big adjustable wrench to grab onto the lower control arm and I can push it down just enought to get the ball joint apart.
then the axle shaft slided out of the hub (tap with rubber hammer maybe) at this point the strut is hanging from the top mount, undo 3 nuts and the strut is out.
next you need to undo the bolt that clamps the knuckle to the strut. I tap a wedge in and the thing falls apart.
Send me an PM or email if you want to be able to call and discuss.
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Hi there justatoy........welcome to the forum.
If you are only just out of warranty by a few weeks / 2000 miles I'd definitely ask Jag about the warranty. They may offer to fund part of it as a goodwill gesture as it is only just out.
I have had this happen to me a few times, twice on my Ford Mondeos and once on my Saab 93...........and if pushed they certainly may offer to meet you at least halfway on it, but, only if you ask the question obviously!
Whats the worst they can say? No???
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Jeeesh...c'mon Bo...........just because you've had nothing but bad experiences wit Jag dealers doesn't mean everyone has had to the same extent.
It could be anything from a disputed claim, a bad dealer ( they do exist ) or, and please don't take this personally, but, it could be you.
All I'm saying is that for the sake of a phone call / visit that justatoy may get some joy, as you say, he may not, but if he doesn't ask he definitely won't get
In my experience it can be your reaction and attitude as much as anything that counts.
Knowing how important these relations can be for your motoring enjoyment I make it my business to really get to know the service and parts people and befriend them. I have been known to even drop in a bottle of wine and or a box of chocolates at Xmas time. You'd be amazed at the amount of " free " work I get done and warranty claims that always pass with ease.
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10-16-2007, 06:28 PM
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I bought my car off warranty.. and have only asked for accurate competant service. That is what the main dealers are obliged to provide.. I am direct and non-political here.. but I am not that way at the dealer.
They have absolutely been the worst part of the ownership experience. I have been to several and no difference. They refuse to help if you did not give them any car sale.
I have escalated issues like my corrosion to the highest level in north america.. the general manager at the dealer met with the president of Jag Canada and went over my case.. and still no progress... it is absurd to think they are a real company.. they act like Criminals.. breaking the very laws created to prevent their behaviour.
If this forum cant handle hearing from people that want to share their experiences.. then just remove me or block me..
Jim, you like to candy coat everything.... the old "you get more bees with honey than vinegar" tactic... I am just telling my side of the story..
everyone knows you avoid conflict at all costs... I face issues head on....
My dealers are total jackasses.... and me saying that does not make me a jackass...... I am not.
They have absolutely been the worst part of the ownership experience. I have been to several and no difference. They refuse to help if you did not give them any car sale.
I have escalated issues like my corrosion to the highest level in north america.. the general manager at the dealer met with the president of Jag Canada and went over my case.. and still no progress... it is absurd to think they are a real company.. they act like Criminals.. breaking the very laws created to prevent their behaviour.
If this forum cant handle hearing from people that want to share their experiences.. then just remove me or block me..
Jim, you like to candy coat everything.... the old "you get more bees with honey than vinegar" tactic... I am just telling my side of the story..
everyone knows you avoid conflict at all costs... I face issues head on....
My dealers are total jackasses.... and me saying that does not make me a jackass...... I am not.
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I bought my car off warranty.. and have only asked for accurate competant service. That is what the main dealers are obliged to provide.. I am direct and non-political here.. but I am not that way at the dealer.
They have absolutely been the worst part of the ownership experience. I have been to several and no difference. They refuse to help if you did not give them any car sale.
I have escalated issues like my corrosion to the highest level in north america.. the general manager at the dealer met with the president of Jag Canada and went over my case.. and still no progress... it is absurd to think they are a real company.. they act like Criminals.. breaking the very laws created to prevent their behaviour.
If this forum cant handle hearing from people that want to share their experiences.. then just remove me or block me..
Jim, you like to candy coat everything.... the old "you get more bees with honey than vinegar" tactic... I am just telling my side of the story..
everyone knows you avoid conflict at all costs... I face issues head on....
My dealers are total jackasses.... and me saying that does not make me a jackass...... I am not.
I bought my car off warranty.. and have only asked for accurate competant service. That is what the main dealers are obliged to provide.. I am direct and non-political here.. but I am not that way at the dealer.
They have absolutely been the worst part of the ownership experience. I have been to several and no difference. They refuse to help if you did not give them any car sale.
I have escalated issues like my corrosion to the highest level in north america.. the general manager at the dealer met with the president of Jag Canada and went over my case.. and still no progress... it is absurd to think they are a real company.. they act like Criminals.. breaking the very laws created to prevent their behaviour.
If this forum cant handle hearing from people that want to share their experiences.. then just remove me or block me..
Jim, you like to candy coat everything.... the old "you get more bees with honey than vinegar" tactic... I am just telling my side of the story..
everyone knows you avoid conflict at all costs... I face issues head on....
My dealers are total jackasses.... and me saying that does not make me a jackass...... I am not.
Bo, no one is disagreeing that the dealer network isn't ( generally ) speaking, the best. There have beenplenty of documentedcomplaints from members about poor service, etc etc. There are also reports of good dealers, good experiences as well which you ignore or refuse to believe because you have only suffered at their hands. Maybe it is you or your attitude, I really dont know in your case?
Having read your posts forquite some time I know you are a knowledgable and valuable member, but I also know that most of your posts about your car, about Jaguar in general and the dealers have all been negative. Maybe thats just your attitude, again, I don't know for sure.
No one as far as I can tell has any problem with you or hearing about your experiences, after all that is what the forum is all about. As far as I'm concerned you have done nothing to warrant either removal or blocking of your posts/membership and I'd like to see you remain with the forum, but thats your choice.
As for me " candy coating" everything, thats your opinion and you're welcome to it.
Re the dealers and the " old you get more bees with honey than vinegar tactic"
Obviously, it works for me as I, in 16 years of motoring with numerous dealers have had very little to complain about. I always try to be polite and nice and give people the benefit of the doubt first. If that fails then of course I will take it to the next level and so on until I get what I want, and I generally do just that, without having to resort to attitude and moaning / whinging. Either the " several" dealers you have been to have all been poor ( what are the chances?) or your vinegar approach has not worked.
Everyone knows I avoid conflict at all costs? I wasnt aware that everyone felt this way and that you were the spokesperson for the forum. I do however aprreciate the " heads up" Bo.
As for you facing issues head on.....this is something I have had to do in my daily job for over 16 years so that comment is b/s. You do face issues head on Bo, but in a moaning, whinging way that is usually completely negative. For example, I suggested that justatoy speak to the dealers and ask for a contribution as his warranty is only just out, after all, whats the worst they can say, No?............your first reaction??? "In my experience that is ALL they can say!"
Maybe your dealers are total jackasses, I'm sure you're right, but as far as I can see no one has ever called you a jackass including me, at any time, so why would you think that??
Jim
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Sheesh.... I tried to tell you that I am not moaning or whining at the dealer -.... I happen to be negative on this forum because my car has been disapointing.I (almost) always back up my bitching with evidence.
I can assure you that I am entirely jovial in most walks of life.... Dont miss read my negativeness just because the Jag is crappy...
I can assure you that I am entirely jovial in most walks of life.... Dont miss read my negativeness just because the Jag is crappy...
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Yeah I know you have had more than your fair share of problems with the X and of course you're annoyed to say the least! I've read the posts.
But, I thought you had done so much work on it that you were almopst finally free of irritating problems which is why you decided to keep her?
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I was wonderin as I had passed 3 or 4 newbies with problems onto you and didnt know if they had contacted you or not?
Huggin you back big fella...............in a friendly manly sorta way[&o]
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Wow....man did things hit the fan...Hey Jim doesn't sound like you need it buddy but even if you do sugar coat things as bo stated (not that I've noticed this) its much better to have a positive attitude no matter what it is in life.
Bo I feel bad for you as others do too, that you have had such a horrible experience. What I don't understand is why you still hang onto the car. To me its almost like you enjoy wasting money on it and fixing it and complaining to jag. I also would hate to see you go as you are a valuable asset to this forum as you have pretty much fixed everything on your car but I don't like the way you attacked Jim. Not because he's my buddy or a fellow mod, more because that was totally uncalled for. Nobody disrespects you on here why would you lower yourself to that? You've attacked me before because the terminology wasn't dead on. I respect you on here as well as others but we would all appreciate the same back bud! BTW post on here more as we never hear from you until you have a problem anymore and had to fix something...We like to hear from everyone on here not just a few people babbling on an on about absolutely nothing which I myself am included. Its nice once in a while to get solid concrete information that you always provide. Hopefully you don't take this the wrong way bud as I'd hate to lose anyone on here...
Bo I feel bad for you as others do too, that you have had such a horrible experience. What I don't understand is why you still hang onto the car. To me its almost like you enjoy wasting money on it and fixing it and complaining to jag. I also would hate to see you go as you are a valuable asset to this forum as you have pretty much fixed everything on your car but I don't like the way you attacked Jim. Not because he's my buddy or a fellow mod, more because that was totally uncalled for. Nobody disrespects you on here why would you lower yourself to that? You've attacked me before because the terminology wasn't dead on. I respect you on here as well as others but we would all appreciate the same back bud! BTW post on here more as we never hear from you until you have a problem anymore and had to fix something...We like to hear from everyone on here not just a few people babbling on an on about absolutely nothing which I myself am included. Its nice once in a while to get solid concrete information that you always provide. Hopefully you don't take this the wrong way bud as I'd hate to lose anyone on here...
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10-21-2007, 09:37 PM
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hmmmm..... I never considered that I attacked jimmy.... Tthe thingsI say here are no different than what I say to my buds drinking at the pub.
You can all be assured that I will be posting more here until the spring.
Today I put my other summer car into winter storage. No more BMWs for me until the snow is gone, It was the 1988 M5 that was the last to go this year. Man that car is a gas to drive, and wowowoo.. the brakes are so good it is hard to believe it is 20 years old now.
As far as why I dont sell the car.. it is all financial... I want a winter car... I have very fast summer cars.. (lotus S4s - sold, BMW M3, BMw M5) and one oldie that shows I am still an old school car lover (1971 BMW 2002). I love winter driving yet hate to kill a good car with the salt.
In the past I drove BMW 325iX's from the late 80's early 90's... There is still nothing better for rallying through a snow storm.
Ever since the X-type was conceived, it looked good on paper. AWD, viscous coupling, rear torque biased, manual trans, sport package, really really really good specs.
When I could no longer find a rust free iX,,, I started to look for a decent newer car. The BMW was too much scratch, the Jag was again perfect on paper.
I paid $16k CDN for my car a year ago. at that time there were US cars for about 12-14k.... A BMW Xi would have been about ten grand more.
I bought the Jag with the expectation that it would be reliable as much as a 100k mile BMW would be. soooooooooooooo wrong.
now I have fixed everything on my jag and it runs nicely. I listed it on auto trader several times and the best offer I ever got was for 8k Cdn...
I cant afford to lose that much money in a year.. especially considering the money I have put into the bitch. and the BMW that might have been reliable has barely lost any value.
all in all the only way for me to get any enjoyment out of this POS car is to rant on the message board. Sure when it drives ok I like it but that is about 3 days a month.
The jag is actually not too bad to work on.. and so I have been able to fix many things easily. What makes me super mad is how ridiculous the dealer and Jag canada is about the known problems. They just plain refuse to even face problems. let alone resolve them
The dealer support has been about 10000 times worse than the car itself. I can handle the repairs, I cant handle the lack of help.
whaa whaa whaa..... dont call me a cry baby.. I am tuff... I think Jim is too..
You can all be assured that I will be posting more here until the spring.
Today I put my other summer car into winter storage. No more BMWs for me until the snow is gone, It was the 1988 M5 that was the last to go this year. Man that car is a gas to drive, and wowowoo.. the brakes are so good it is hard to believe it is 20 years old now.
As far as why I dont sell the car.. it is all financial... I want a winter car... I have very fast summer cars.. (lotus S4s - sold, BMW M3, BMw M5) and one oldie that shows I am still an old school car lover (1971 BMW 2002). I love winter driving yet hate to kill a good car with the salt.
In the past I drove BMW 325iX's from the late 80's early 90's... There is still nothing better for rallying through a snow storm.
Ever since the X-type was conceived, it looked good on paper. AWD, viscous coupling, rear torque biased, manual trans, sport package, really really really good specs.
When I could no longer find a rust free iX,,, I started to look for a decent newer car. The BMW was too much scratch, the Jag was again perfect on paper.
I paid $16k CDN for my car a year ago. at that time there were US cars for about 12-14k.... A BMW Xi would have been about ten grand more.
I bought the Jag with the expectation that it would be reliable as much as a 100k mile BMW would be. soooooooooooooo wrong.
now I have fixed everything on my jag and it runs nicely. I listed it on auto trader several times and the best offer I ever got was for 8k Cdn...
I cant afford to lose that much money in a year.. especially considering the money I have put into the bitch. and the BMW that might have been reliable has barely lost any value.
all in all the only way for me to get any enjoyment out of this POS car is to rant on the message board. Sure when it drives ok I like it but that is about 3 days a month.
The jag is actually not too bad to work on.. and so I have been able to fix many things easily. What makes me super mad is how ridiculous the dealer and Jag canada is about the known problems. They just plain refuse to even face problems. let alone resolve them
The dealer support has been about 10000 times worse than the car itself. I can handle the repairs, I cant handle the lack of help.
whaa whaa whaa..... dont call me a cry baby.. I am tuff... I think Jim is too..
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10-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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Well good to hear you'll be back...unfortunately man truly must say I would have gotten rid of the car a while ago! You couldn't get the 16k back out of it or whatever you owe on it-before you fixed everything and remodelled a new car? Personally I think bmw got a hold of your x and they are tracking you down wherever you go and are making things go wrong just to keep you a bmw fan! 
That is totally my guess bo! Truly I don't think anyone ever has had as many problems in their cars as you have even after owning the car for 20 years! The worse part is that you still have had no luck at jag dealers themselves as some others have stated as well. My experiences at 2 different dealers has pretty much been the same and they helped me out either way. Truly though it sucks that you have gone through all of this as I truly love jags from here on out. I feel bad because you got the 1 in a million car that has been the biggest hassle. I truly don't think you'd have this many problems with a different one...Not that that matters because it sounds like your minds been made....the bmw god has spoke to you and the x-type!
? Personally I think bmw got a hold of your x and they are tracking you down wherever you go and are making things go wrong just to keep you a bmw fan! That is totally my guess bo! Truly I don't think anyone ever has had as many problems in their cars as you have even after owning the car for 20 years! The worse part is that you still have had no luck at jag dealers themselves as some others have stated as well. My experiences at 2 different dealers has pretty much been the same and they helped me out either way. Truly though it sucks that you have gone through all of this as I truly love jags from here on out. I feel bad because you got the 1 in a million car that has been the biggest hassle. I truly don't think you'd have this many problems with a different one...Not that that matters because it sounds like your minds been made....the bmw god has spoke to you and the x-type!
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Thanks for your support Aquill,appreciated mate, although I dont think Bo was having a go personally, just as much as that is the way he is.
Straight talkin whether you like it or not, unfortunately no one likes too muchof that sometimes...lol
You're right too when you say its a shame that he's had soooo many problems with his car, but I do feel itsthe exception rather than the rule after seeing hundreds even thousands of posts and nothing else even comes close to Bo's experience!
Anyways, I'm glad he's sticking around cos Bo can be very helpful and is quite knowledgable and a good asset to the forum too.
Just a little more positivity would go a long way
Jim
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10-23-2007, 09:06 AM
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Well....not knowing someone and knowing how you are on here I'd never come out and say you sugar coat everything...thats not right...your just a good guy that likes to take a positive approach to everything...shoot if this world had more of that think of how nice it'd be!