** X-Type Stutter, Jittering problem, PLEASE HELP **
#1
** X-Type Stutter, Jittering problem, PLEASE HELP **
Hi, I hope someone will be able to give me some assistance with an issue I’ve been trying to resolve for a while. I have a 2008 model 3.0L V6 AWD X-Type with 150 000km (93 000miles) on the clock. I really love the car, and it’s the third Jag I’ve owned.
About a month ago I started noticing a jitter, stutter, jerk (whatever you want to call it) when traveling in the city between 50-70km/h (31-44mph), particularly when travelling uphill or with additional weight in the car, and I’ve had no warning lights appear on the dashboard. It doesn’t occur every time I drive the car, however when it does it seems that it occurs when I accelerate normally through the gears until I reach the lowest gear and lightly feather the accelerator at about 44mph. The stutter goes away as soon as I apply the break or accelerate more rapidly. Furthermore, occasionally a similar feeling occurs when accelerating from rest or close to rest, where it feels as if I’m applying and releasing the accelerator at a fast rate or am momentarily losing and regaining power, despite keeping the accelerator at the same level.
I serviced the car 3 weeks ago where the air, fuel and oil filters where replaced as well as the engine oil, and also had a diagnostic test run on the car at my local Jaguar dealer, and no error codes where reported. The issue wasn’t resolved. I found another local mechanic who works on Jaguars, who too ran a diagnostic on the car where a misfire in cylinder 3 was reported. They found a leak in an air pipe which was fixed and the error code went away, and all seemed fine, however the stutter wasn’t resolved. After taking the car for a ride to experience the feeling, the head service manager felt that it may be as a result of a misfire due to a faulty spark plug or ignition coil. I replaced all the spark plugs and bought one ignition coil and replaced it with the old one in cylinder #3, hoping the previous error code of a misfire in that cylinder was a hint. The problem is still there though; however there is no guarantee that the faulty coil (if that is the issue) is actually in cylinder #3. Should I shuffle the coil that I know works around in the various cylinders in the hope that I eventually find the faulty one and solve the problem?
Like I said it doesn’t always happen, however on occasions that it does, the stutter seems more exaggerated than the previous time, and other times it’s very mild; I don’t want to ignore it which may lead to something bigger. Any kind of advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
About a month ago I started noticing a jitter, stutter, jerk (whatever you want to call it) when traveling in the city between 50-70km/h (31-44mph), particularly when travelling uphill or with additional weight in the car, and I’ve had no warning lights appear on the dashboard. It doesn’t occur every time I drive the car, however when it does it seems that it occurs when I accelerate normally through the gears until I reach the lowest gear and lightly feather the accelerator at about 44mph. The stutter goes away as soon as I apply the break or accelerate more rapidly. Furthermore, occasionally a similar feeling occurs when accelerating from rest or close to rest, where it feels as if I’m applying and releasing the accelerator at a fast rate or am momentarily losing and regaining power, despite keeping the accelerator at the same level.
I serviced the car 3 weeks ago where the air, fuel and oil filters where replaced as well as the engine oil, and also had a diagnostic test run on the car at my local Jaguar dealer, and no error codes where reported. The issue wasn’t resolved. I found another local mechanic who works on Jaguars, who too ran a diagnostic on the car where a misfire in cylinder 3 was reported. They found a leak in an air pipe which was fixed and the error code went away, and all seemed fine, however the stutter wasn’t resolved. After taking the car for a ride to experience the feeling, the head service manager felt that it may be as a result of a misfire due to a faulty spark plug or ignition coil. I replaced all the spark plugs and bought one ignition coil and replaced it with the old one in cylinder #3, hoping the previous error code of a misfire in that cylinder was a hint. The problem is still there though; however there is no guarantee that the faulty coil (if that is the issue) is actually in cylinder #3. Should I shuffle the coil that I know works around in the various cylinders in the hope that I eventually find the faulty one and solve the problem?
Like I said it doesn’t always happen, however on occasions that it does, the stutter seems more exaggerated than the previous time, and other times it’s very mild; I don’t want to ignore it which may lead to something bigger. Any kind of advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
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misfire
Try this: next time it stutters let it stutter until a code appears to see what system is failing(fuel, vacuum,ignition)Fuel: connect a scanner and see what the fuel pressure is when failing. Vacuum: check breather hose, Booster line for cracks, You may get a P0173/174 and should miss at Idle(high vacuum).Ignition: Depending on how much you want to do you can swap coils(if you get a code) to see if the fault follows. You can also check the coils OHMS and compare them for high/low variation(10% is ok) same with injectors.
You could have a dirty MASS AIR sensor or a TPS (throttle position sensor problem. Check the TPS by connection the scanner then ( key on / engine off) go to the TPS on the scanner then S L O W L Y depress peddle and watch the scale for a dead spot or a jump in reading. I have used all these to diagnose my problems and avoided needless parts replacement.Time consuming yes but I have saved $100s and was satisfying. Good luck!
You could have a dirty MASS AIR sensor or a TPS (throttle position sensor problem. Check the TPS by connection the scanner then ( key on / engine off) go to the TPS on the scanner then S L O W L Y depress peddle and watch the scale for a dead spot or a jump in reading. I have used all these to diagnose my problems and avoided needless parts replacement.Time consuming yes but I have saved $100s and was satisfying. Good luck!
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#4
i had what i called a shudder , felt like someone randomly and quickly tapping the brakes on me. i had learned from other cars that this COULD be a misfire.
Common thought was i probbly had oil leaking into my spark plug wells ,
so i purchased:
6 new platinum plugs
6 new coil packs
1 set valve cover gasket
1 set manifold gasket
I stripped the car down and when i could see all 6 plugs i noticed the plug wells were bone dry. So rather than diving into that valve covers i installed plugs , coil packs, cleaned MAF sensor ,new air filter and soaked the pcv valve in carb cleaner.
The car had 90,000 when i did all this and i purchased it at 86,000. All i can say is what a difference these made in the driveability of the car . it is so much smoother on take off , instant acceleration and the shudder is gone.
I would also like to add the car was throwing NO codes.
Common thought was i probbly had oil leaking into my spark plug wells ,
so i purchased:
6 new platinum plugs
6 new coil packs
1 set valve cover gasket
1 set manifold gasket
I stripped the car down and when i could see all 6 plugs i noticed the plug wells were bone dry. So rather than diving into that valve covers i installed plugs , coil packs, cleaned MAF sensor ,new air filter and soaked the pcv valve in carb cleaner.
The car had 90,000 when i did all this and i purchased it at 86,000. All i can say is what a difference these made in the driveability of the car . it is so much smoother on take off , instant acceleration and the shudder is gone.
I would also like to add the car was throwing NO codes.
#5
Thanks to everyone for all your assistance. Shortly after creating this thread I solved the problem, however wanted to wait a few weeks to make sure the problem was truly solved.
A few days before the shudder began, I added a fuel additive to my petrol tank after filling up, which I suspect may have cleared any dirt and debris in the fuel system, however clogged an injector at the same time. As a last resort, I added a strong mixture of injector cleaner, which has solved the problem! The car is running like a dream, and had I known that this would be the cure in the beginning, it would have saved me a heck load of money!
A few days before the shudder began, I added a fuel additive to my petrol tank after filling up, which I suspect may have cleared any dirt and debris in the fuel system, however clogged an injector at the same time. As a last resort, I added a strong mixture of injector cleaner, which has solved the problem! The car is running like a dream, and had I known that this would be the cure in the beginning, it would have saved me a heck load of money!
#6
Hi, I hope someone will be able to give me some assistance with an issue I’ve been trying to resolve for a while. I have a 2008 model 3.0L V6 AWD X-Type with 150 000km (93 000miles) on the clock. I really love the car, and it’s the third Jag I’ve owned.
About a month ago I started noticing a jitter, stutter, jerk (whatever you want to call it) when traveling in the city between 50-70km/h (31-44mph), particularly when travelling uphill or with additional weight in the car, and I’ve had no warning lights appear on the dashboard. It doesn’t occur every time I drive the car, however when it does it seems that it occurs when I accelerate normally through the gears until I reach the lowest gear and lightly feather the accelerator at about 44mph. The stutter goes away as soon as I apply the break or accelerate more rapidly. Furthermore, occasionally a similar feeling occurs when accelerating from rest or close to rest, where it feels as if I’m applying and releasing the accelerator at a fast rate or am momentarily losing and regaining power, despite keeping the accelerator at the same level.
I serviced the car 3 weeks ago where the air, fuel and oil filters where replaced as well as the engine oil, and also had a diagnostic test run on the car at my local Jaguar dealer, and no error codes where reported. The issue wasn’t resolved. I found another local mechanic who works on Jaguars, who too ran a diagnostic on the car where a misfire in cylinder 3 was reported. They found a leak in an air pipe which was fixed and the error code went away, and all seemed fine, however the stutter wasn’t resolved. After taking the car for a ride to experience the feeling, the head service manager felt that it may be as a result of a misfire due to a faulty spark plug or ignition coil. I replaced all the spark plugs and bought one ignition coil and replaced it with the old one in cylinder #3, hoping the previous error code of a misfire in that cylinder was a hint. The problem is still there though; however there is no guarantee that the faulty coil (if that is the issue) is actually in cylinder #3. Should I shuffle the coil that I know works around in the various cylinders in the hope that I eventually find the faulty one and solve the problem?
Like I said it doesn’t always happen, however on occasions that it does, the stutter seems more exaggerated than the previous time, and other times it’s very mild; I don’t want to ignore it which may lead to something bigger. Any kind of advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
About a month ago I started noticing a jitter, stutter, jerk (whatever you want to call it) when traveling in the city between 50-70km/h (31-44mph), particularly when travelling uphill or with additional weight in the car, and I’ve had no warning lights appear on the dashboard. It doesn’t occur every time I drive the car, however when it does it seems that it occurs when I accelerate normally through the gears until I reach the lowest gear and lightly feather the accelerator at about 44mph. The stutter goes away as soon as I apply the break or accelerate more rapidly. Furthermore, occasionally a similar feeling occurs when accelerating from rest or close to rest, where it feels as if I’m applying and releasing the accelerator at a fast rate or am momentarily losing and regaining power, despite keeping the accelerator at the same level.
I serviced the car 3 weeks ago where the air, fuel and oil filters where replaced as well as the engine oil, and also had a diagnostic test run on the car at my local Jaguar dealer, and no error codes where reported. The issue wasn’t resolved. I found another local mechanic who works on Jaguars, who too ran a diagnostic on the car where a misfire in cylinder 3 was reported. They found a leak in an air pipe which was fixed and the error code went away, and all seemed fine, however the stutter wasn’t resolved. After taking the car for a ride to experience the feeling, the head service manager felt that it may be as a result of a misfire due to a faulty spark plug or ignition coil. I replaced all the spark plugs and bought one ignition coil and replaced it with the old one in cylinder #3, hoping the previous error code of a misfire in that cylinder was a hint. The problem is still there though; however there is no guarantee that the faulty coil (if that is the issue) is actually in cylinder #3. Should I shuffle the coil that I know works around in the various cylinders in the hope that I eventually find the faulty one and solve the problem?
Like I said it doesn’t always happen, however on occasions that it does, the stutter seems more exaggerated than the previous time, and other times it’s very mild; I don’t want to ignore it which may lead to something bigger. Any kind of advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
#7
What brand injector cleaner did you use?
Mine will do this on occasion, my fix has been to drag race it per say.
I hit the on ramp to the highway and then hold it to the floor till I hit 70mph.
Call it the poor mans injector cleaner, O2 cleaner etc etc.
But if the cleaner you used does work I would like to try it.
Mine will do this on occasion, my fix has been to drag race it per say.
I hit the on ramp to the highway and then hold it to the floor till I hit 70mph.
Call it the poor mans injector cleaner, O2 cleaner etc etc.
But if the cleaner you used does work I would like to try it.
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