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Old 07-15-2010, 07:02 PM
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Default Seatbelt Buckle Replacement

I searched the forum and couldn't find anything specificaly on this so...

My 2003 X-Type driver's seat belt buckle has failed. It now requires that the release button be pressed in to join the two pieces.

1) Has anyone ventured to tke the buckle end apart to fix this problem?

2) I have located a junk yard that claims to have the part ($100 USD) though I have not placed my order yet. What is the procedure to R/R this piece? Must I remove the seat or center console?

Thanks in advance for any tips!
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i made the mistake of purchasing the junkyard buckle, only to find out that the airbag sensor in it was deployed. now my airbag light on the dash is illuminated. i called the junkyard back and the fellow agreed to refund my money fortunately. there is really no way to tell this by looking at the buckle (at least this particular one looks *perfect*). word to the wise - don't purchase a used junkyardseatbelt buckle unless you know the driver wasn't jerked around in an accident. this sucker took about 2 hours (wasted!) time to install. there is a mind boggling number of wires and connectors and very cramped quarters under that d*mn seat. i now have a new buckle on order.

does anyone know what the procedure is to reset the dash airbag light? can i do it with an ordinary obdII code reader/reset tool?
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Default Airbag Code 33

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I'f you've purchased a junkjard seatbelt buckle and now your getting a dasboard airbag code 33(3 blinks, pause, 3 blinks) it is an indication of:

33 - Seat Belt Pretension fault driver

I tried to reset this with my generic reader/reset tool and no joy. the tool reads the usual jag specific p1000 and p1111 codes which is of no help.

am i being optomistic in assuming it will reset itself when i install my new seatbelt buckle or am i destined to find a dealer to reset it?
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Update:

I'f you've purchased a junkjard seatbelt buckle and now your getting a dasboard airbag code 33(3 blinks, pause, 3 blinks) it is an indication of:

33 - Seat Belt Pretension fault driver

I tried to reset this with my generic reader/reset tool and no joy. the tool reads the usual jag specific p1000 and p1111 codes which is of no help.

am i being optomistic in assuming it will reset itself when i install my new seatbelt buckle or am i destined to find a dealer to reset it?
If you need a new/used buckle I have a whole set from my parts car and will sell the seatbelt pretensioner for 50 bucks shipped with in the US.
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thanks for the offer - should have known sooner. bought one brand new $180. still hasn't arrived.

does anyone know if the fault will reset itself after the new setabelt is installed or will i need to find a dealer??
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not sure i should even bother posting this given the ovewhelming interest. but maybe this will help some other poor soul... here we go:

background:

pretensioner on a good seatbelt should measure closed circuit (close to zero ohms). the pretensioner is the orange connector. the seatbelt-not-attached warning is related to the brown connector. in other words there are two seperate circuits controlled by the seatbelt. on a bad seatbelt in which the pretensioner has been deployed, it will measure open circuit (close to infinate ohms). how to tell if you don't have an ohmeter? look down the black metal barrel at the end of the unit; if the securing end of the cable is not at the very bottom of the barrel then it's been deployed - and it's no good. you can also tell by looking at black plastic sheething covering the steel cable between the buckle and the main housing; if it looks crumpled, then the cable has been retracted and it no good.

seatbelt buckle replacement:

following instructions are for driver sidereplacement. set aside approximately 1.5-2 hrs and god bless you for your patience.

1) put seat in full back position and unbolt both front bolt connecting seat to floor (10mm)
2) using electrical seat switch, move seat all the way forward
3) unscrew plastic pieces covering rear seat floor bolts (philips screwdriver)
4) remove four rear seat floor bolts (10mm)
5) remove electrical harness from car to front of seat (6mm)
6) tip seat on side inside car (no need to remove) and block up with a small cardboard box underneath to level seat somewhat. balance it so that you can get at evereything underneath while sitting in the passanger seat.
7) pry thin metal retainer, and pull electrical connector forward, un-clipping from seat bracket
8) using small flathead screwdriver, release two clips holding brown and orange connectors from seatbelt assembly from the electrical connector backshel and push out.
9) unsrew seatbelt buckle assembly (large torx)
10) cut cable ties to remove seatbelt buckle assembly.
11) install new seatbelt assembly in reverse order - use a couple of new cable ties to prevent the two wires from cathing on anything below seat.

side note: the dashboard airbag light (associated with code 33 = driver side pretensioner failure) will reset itself without fiddling with any computers

cheers!

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Glad you posted this and Thank You! Wife pulled up outside in rain sitting in car and yelling like crazy till my old mom saw her and came and got me. Wife was furious seat belt stuck and she couldn't get out!
I was having a great laugh!,
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Followed your instructions yesterday and they worked very well. I took my old buckle apart and found, as expected, that the spring in the unit had twisted. I replaced it with the spring from a "just in case" passenger unit I got from eBay, and it's good as new.
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glad I was able to help! I've come to the conclusion that almost everything in this car marked bosch is a pos!
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Followed your instructions yesterday and they worked very well. I took my old buckle apart and found, as expected, that the spring in the unit had twisted. I replaced it with the spring from a "just in case" passenger unit I got from eBay, and it's good as new.
I have this exact same problem with the front passenger seatbelt buckle in my XF - I have to press the button to get it to accept the seatbelt...

I suspect that it is a spring that is broken/twisted in the unit. Is it possible to take the buckle part apart to fix the spring without having to remove to seat to get to the bolt to remove the whole thing? If so how does it some apart?

Many thanks

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Rich,

I am not sure how similar my old VDP is to your XF, but I suspect that your latch, like mine, is attached to the sliding seat assembly. I guess it is technically possible to do what I did without removing the seat, but there are many little bits inside the mechanism that would be very easy to lose unless you have the assembly on the bench in front of you. Removing the seat is about a 15-20 minute job (at least in my VDP) and worth it IMHO.

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The latch part is press riveted together.
It would take drilling and re-riveted.
And not sure if it can be fixed without spare parts.

Replacing the entire assembly is too easy to warrant an attempted fix.
When you go to the scrap yard to buy one, make sure the front end of the car is not wrecked and it should be fine.
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Default Replacing Seatbelt Buckle..

I have found a replacement seatbelt buckle assembly for my XF however the plastic case around the buckle receiver part is black - the casing on mine is a cream colour to match my interior..

Does anyone know if its possible to remove the plastic casing from the buckle and replace the black one on the new unit with the one from my car? I cant see any screws/rivets on this part so im guessing that it's just clipped together somehow, but dont want to break it trying to get it apart!

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Rich,

I am not sure how similar my old VDP is to your XF, but I suspect that your latch, like mine, is attached to the sliding seat assembly. I guess it is technically possible to do what I did without removing the seat, but there are many little bits inside the mechanism that would be very easy to lose unless you have the assembly on the bench in front of you. Removing the seat is about a 15-20 minute job (at least in my VDP) and worth it IMHO.

Good luck!

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HI can some please help me I can't release the brown and orange connecters.
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HI can some please help me I can't release the brown and orange connecters.
Welcome to the forum Numan Ijaz Dar,

I'll take a wild guess this a Jaguar and possibly an X-Type but my mystical powers fail when trying to guess the Year.

Is it one of these connections?

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I'm not familiar with the X-Type buckle but if it doesn't just pull out, there's likely to be a locking tab which will have to be pressed with a small screwdriver to release the harness connector. Members here with this model will be able to say if I'm way off the mark with this suggestion!

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