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Hello Everyone:

I need to replace the front and rear brakes on my 01 XJ8. The Mechanic told me I needed to replace the Discs, Calipers and Pads. I am thinking of doing it myself. First, what are the parts number? Second, Is it a hard to do by myself? I've never done such a job. Third, I have read through the forum that Akebono are good pads. Redstuff are better. What do you guys recommend for my XJ8? Are there any other parts that I should replace? Are there any instructions on how to do this?

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Pads: I've used $40~60 pads from my local Advanced Auto Parts store.
Rotors: changed mine at ~70k (donít remember brand paid ~$140 for a pair - front) and at 155k now, they still look good.
Calipers: unless there is something wrong with those, I wouldn't worry about it.

Changing pads and rotors is a piece of cake though. Make sure you have an adjustable C-clamp, and 7mm torx bit (I'm pretty sure it's 7mm )
Remember to unscrew the cap on the brake fluid reservoir, and wrap a towel around the top of it to catch any spill-over when you compress the caliper cylinder to make room for new (thicker) pads. And don't forget to screw it back on when done, or it will be a very short test drive....
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I have heard that the Akebono pads are the best and don't produce much brake dust, but that's a personal decision. I mean to try them next pad change. I agree with mzs_biteme on the calipers. You should not need new calipers unless something is leaking or sticking. I would go ahead and flush the fluid too when you bleed them. Might as well. It's not really a bad job. Removing the calipers to fit the new rotors is the hardest part. Use some PB Blaster, a lot of leverage, and the right tool.
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What's wrong with o.e.m pads? EBC are a well known brand with excellent support, like free anti noise shims included.
Discs you can find from one of the forum sponsors, if not see here...
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if nothing else, this site can supply the part numbers you needed.

Calipers, I'd be included to agree, they don't fail, unless leaking fluid is the problem, then it's piston seals, and kits can be bought to refurb them.

Just to add, if you have a look at this thread, it shows you how to do the job. a read through, get the tools together and get a bit mucky! good luck and I hope this helps.

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As always great information. I will order the parts and keep you posted.
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I recently completed a brake job @ 59K miles, and I found the rotors could be turned once--thus saving some $. I used Wagner ThermoQuiet brakes--but they are semi-metallac pads. Any of the major brake companies' pads will be adequate.

Many car owners are switching over to ceramic pads--to avoid generating so much disc dust.

As you get into your brake job, you'll realize how absolutely conventional Jaguar brakes are. They're very easy cars to do brake jobs on. Those murderous days of doing inboard brake repairs on XKE's are gone.
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Default The Parts.

So, this is what I ordered.

2 BECK ARNLEY PREMIUM FRONT AND REAR BRAKE ROTOR, VENTED.
4 EBC REDSTUFF LOW DUST SUPERSTREET BRAKE PADS (FRONT AND REAR).

ALL FOR $597.04

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
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You received a good deal. Where did you get this deal?

These rotors and pads totaled $563.41 after $15 promo code (SAVE15) including shipping at parts geek.com

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$703.10 at Auto Parts Warehouse.com

Advance Auto Parts.com for the same rotors with Akebono ultra premium ceramic pads and applying 25% promo discount code (BRKX) totaled $563.95 with pickup at their store.

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I got the parts at AutoPartsWarehouse. I checked AdvanceAutoParts but they did not have the Front Premiun Beck Arnley Rotors in stock or for store pickup but they did have a better price so I got AutoPartsWarehouse to match price. For the rest I got 10% discount.

I always call instead of placing the order online.
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why did he suggest to replace the calipers? i thought those last for ever?
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It is always interesting to know the manufacturing location -- Are they in a BA box? Just wondering as BA is a reseller.

Autohaus sells Zimmerman rotors -- but only for the rear -- less than $60.00.


I have never purchased a Zimmermann rotor that was not made in Germany -- I did recently get a set from Brembo that was made in China.


The OE rotors from Jaguar come in a set -- made in UK. The OE pads are Jurid from Germany.
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I just put new pads on the rears, and replaced the front discs. I am a big fan of EBC Redstuff, and have them on all four corners of both cars now. I am a little confused by the price you paid for front discs. I looked around online and most places had them for between $70-100 a piece. I actually got my from Auto Parts Warehouse | Car Parts, Truck Parts & Auto Body Parts Online - Free Shipping on most Auto Accessories & Performance Parts Ė AutoPartsWarehouse for what i thought was a great deal at $30.95 a piece. The part number is W0133-1612728..
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The price now is about $78 for that part number (Brembo rotors) there on their website.

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Hello Everyone:

I need to replace the front and rear brakes on my 01 XJ8. The Mechanic told me I needed to replace the Discs, Calipers and Pads. I am thinking of doing it myself. First, what are the parts number? Second, Is it a hard to do by myself? I've never done such a job. Third, I have read through the forum that Akebono are good pads. Redstuff are better. What do you guys recommend for my XJ8? Are there any other parts that I should replace? Are there any instructions on how to do this?

Thank you for always helping out.

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I did my brakes today. Front ones. There are two 17mm bolts at the rear of caliper and they hold a caliper to the upper link. A little testy to remove
without an impact wrench. Use a breaker bar if you remove these manually. Other then that easy to do. I have also replaced rotors a Jaguar OEM rotor (at Jagbits.com) can run about $80.00 or you can find cheaper ones at Auto Zone or Advance Auto Parts. I bought ceramic pads for $50.00. If you need brake fluid get Prestone DOT4 synthetic fluid for about $3.80 per 12 oz can. I used 1 1/2 cans to replace brake fluid.
You can do web search for the brake parts and find brake parts corresponding to your model and a year. There are plenty available.
JTIS has a very good page on doing the brakes if you can get hold of one.
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The inner brake pad is fitted with a clip which secures the pad into the caliper piston.+Remove brake pads from caliper housing.+Discard brake pads.
Akebono ceramic pads are very good. Rotors new are 1.023 inches thick and Jaguar manufacturer recommends minimum rotor thickness to be 0.98 inch (25mm)

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The price now is about $78 for that part number (Brembo rotors) there on their website.

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I guess I must have hit a sale without knowing it..
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why did he suggest to replace the calipers? i thought those last for ever?
I think the guy was trying to con me. That is why i decided to do it myself.
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I will let you know as soon as I get the parts. I think Beck Arnley are made in Germany.
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I did my brakes today. Front ones. There are two 17mm bolts at the rear of caliper and they hold a caliper to the upper link. A little testy to remove
without an impact wrench. Use a breaker bar if you remove these manually. Other then that easy to do. I have also replaced rotors a Jaguar OEM rotor (at Jagbits.com) can run about $80.00 or you can find cheaper ones at Auto Zone or Advance Auto Parts. I bought ceramic pads for $50.00. If you need brake fluid get Prestone DOT4 synthetic fluid for about $3.80 per 12 oz can. I used 1 1/2 cans to replace brake fluid.
You can do web search for the brake parts and find brake parts corresponding to your model and a year. There are plenty available.
JTIS has a very good page on doing the brakes if you can get hold of one.
Good luck
The inner brake pad is fitted with a clip which secures the pad into the caliper piston.+Remove brake pads from caliper housing.+Discard brake pads.
Akebono ceramic pads are very good. Rotors new are 1.023 inches thick and Jaguar manufacturer recommends minimum rotor thickness to be 0.98 inch (25mm)

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I just put new pads on the rears, and replaced the front discs. I am a big fan of EBC Redstuff, and have them on all four corners of both cars now. I am a little confused by the price you paid for front discs. I looked around online and most places had them for between $70-100 a piece. I actually got my from Auto Parts Warehouse | Car Parts, Truck Parts & Auto Body Parts Online - Free Shipping on most Auto Accessories & Performance Parts – AutoPartsWarehouse for what i thought was a great deal at $30.95 a piece. The part number is W0133-1612728..
Here is the breakdown:

(2) Front Rotors : Beck Arnley (Part #083-2803) $71.28 each
(2) Rear Rotors : Beck Arnley (Part #083-2678) $143.79 each
(1) Set of Front EBC RedStuff Ceramic Pads $88.47
(1) Set of Rear EBC RedStuff Ceramic Pads $78.53
Total $597.14

You got a great deal on the Dics. They go for $78.95 right now.
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I think the guy was trying to con me. That is why i decided to do it myself.


Caliper problems can and do crop up from time to time but many outfits...esepcially large franchise repair chains, it seems....are in love with summary replacement of calipers, usually with the pitch of "....we can't guarantee the work unless we replace all the calipers at the same time"

It's a load of hooey.

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