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Old 11-30-2012, 09:34 PM
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Default Shift Lever Stuck in Park

1. First, I did a search on "Stuck Shift levers" and tried some of the recommendations-nothing has worked as yet.

2. Read through the "Driver's Handbook".

3. No Engine Check Light or Codes.

I am parked on a level concrete driveway which I parked in 2 hours earlier, everything was fine then.

Any recommendations?

 

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Old 11-30-2012, 10:11 PM
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LOOK under the car where the linkage cable attachés to the transmission... you will find the two screws/bolts.

Sometime one will fall out

Hope this will help. I keep saying I'm going to get under mine and check this before it happens to me, have not done it yet. but i will now after seeing your post.

good luck

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I was going to wait, but I see you had not got any other reply's.
 
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UPDATE: I was thinking of a different car. The following is now corrected.

Just a quick question.

With the engine running, put your foot on the brake.
Release the parking brake.
Now gently and slightly pull the shifter back to R.
Do you hear a locking pin being extracted?
 

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Old 12-01-2012, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by heima
Just a quick question.

With the engine running, put your foot on the brake.
Release the parking brake.
Now gently and slightly pull the shifter back to R.
Do you hear a locking pin being extracted?

Thanks, tried this and nothing happened.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vacmail
LOOK under the car where the linkage cable attachés to the transmission... you will find the two screws/bolts.

Sometime one will fall out

Hope this will help. I keep saying I'm going to get under mine and check this before it happens to me, have not done it yet. but i will now after seeing your post.

good luck

This post is from panels on 11-13-2010.
I was going to wait, but I see you had not got any other reply's.
Thanks, I read this on a few post, will try this in the morning.

Jacked-up the car and checked the mounting bolts, they were "TIGHT", I could not budge them.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:31 AM
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As I understand it, a stuck lever in Park can be released manually, but one has to take off the transmission cover first, which will reveal a lever press to release the transmission selector. I don't think the instructions are in the Owner Manual.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fraser Mitchell
As I understand it, a stuck lever in Park can be released manually, but one has to take off the transmission cover first, which will reveal a lever press to release the transmission selector. I don't think the instructions are in the Owner Manual.

I removed the "Selector Surround" and removed the 4 screws that hold the selector. The shop manual indicates that I have to remove the "Floor Console" in order to remove the Ash Tray. Any easier solutions?
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:47 PM
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You're testing my memory now ! As I recall, the shop technician showed me a release lever which was at the rear of the select mechanism. One pressed this to release. As far as I know, you don't have to take the whole console off. This release is designed to be reasonably straigtforward, albeit some small amount of dismantling is needed. FWIW its the same as the S-type, so maybe have a look in that forum.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by reyesl
Thanks, tried this and nothing happened.
Thanks. I am hoping it is the same for your XJ as for my Stype.

There is an electric interlock that prevents you from shifting out of park without pressing the brake. This is a safety feature that most modern automatics have.

If your VDP is like my Stype, then there is a Gearshift Interlock solenoid and not-in-park switch at the J-gate assembly.

Also at the J-gate assembly is a module that receives a CAN data stream.

With the engine running and your foot on the brake, the CAN data stream tells the J-gate assembly that the brake is on and what gear the transmission is in.
When you gently and slightly pull the shifter toward R, the not-in-park switch is closed and sends a signal to the instrument cluster. Eventually, the CAN data stream carries a message to release the gearshift interlock solenoid.

So, where can problems occur?
1. CAN data stream is not getting to the J-gate assembly. If the P for park is illuminated, the data stream is being received and power and GND are present.
2. The switch at the brake pedal is not working. There are two switches, one works the brake lights the other cancels cruise control. Are your brake lights illuminating? You might have to get under the dash with a multimeter to check these.
3. The wiring from the brake switche to wherever is bad. The wire is GreenOrange.
4. The not-in-park switch is bad. Because you have disassembled the center console and have access to the J-gate assembly, you should be able to access and test the not-in-park switch. J-gate assembly connector: Pin 1 - 12VDC (greenorange) Pin 2 - GND (black) Pin 4 - Not-in-park switch output, GND when closed (yellow)
5. The wiring from the not-in-park switch is bad. See 4. It looks like you could safely short pin 2 and pin 4 of J-gate assembly connector (backprobe) as doing so would just bypass the not-in-park switch.
6. The gearshift interlock solenoid is bad. Similar to 4., you should have access to the solenoid. Check voltage across solenoid and resistance through solenoid.
7. The gear position switch inside the transmission is bad.

If it were me, I would start with 1. and progress through.

However, what Fraser is suggesting is a temporary work around.

NOTE: I just discovered something. With the key out of the ignition, moving the shifter to the left closes the not-in-park switch and a beeping is heard from the instrument cluster. This could be a substitute for steps 4. and 5.
 

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Originally Posted by heima
For my Stype, there are two switches for the brake pedal, one is used for this safety purpose and requires the brake pedal to be pushed hard.

Did that for my first try

Will try to go through the Shop Manual for anything useful.
 
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What is bad about this, this happened about an hour after a friend made a comment on how clean and straight the body panels were.

 
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:25 PM
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This is a longshot but when you insert the key and turn the ignition to power the car's systems does the the "P" on the J gate light up red? It should illuminate red. If not, this would indicate an electrical issue.

A friend of mine (okay yours truly) spilled coffee across the J gate once and my shift lever was stuck in park for 12 hours. During that time the P didn't light. Only when it lit again could I then get the car out of park.

If anyone spills liquid in the J gate PM me and I'll share my experience. There's an electrical harness underneath and when wet it will turn your car's electrical system haywire. My dash lit up like a Christmas tree and every possible fault flashed including CATS fault etc. for about 12 hours until it started to dry. During that time the car was not drivable as it was stuck in Park.

Lesson to all - when you put a paper or styrofoam cup in the cup holder be very careful. In my case, I leaned on the center armrest to adjust myself and the pressure of my weight jolted the armrest forward which severed the styrofoam coffee cup in half, sending a flood of coffee across the J gate.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:36 PM
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Will be back in a few...

No, the "P" is not lit. Did not notice that till this post.
 

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Smile Any luck getting p to light up?

My guess is electrical...
Great way to save gas, though.

If you cannot get it rolling, suggest using your tow insurance to get the unit to a dealership. Gas saving now gone.

Take care.
 
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:36 PM
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Here is the manual override for the gearshift interlock.
It looks like a wingnut, and supposedly pressing down on the forward "wing" will release the shifter. I am getting this information from another post.
 
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:18 AM
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Thanks, now to see how to remove that assembly.

 
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NOTE: I just discovered something. With the key out of the ignition, moving the shifter to the left closes the not-in-park switch and a beeping is heard from the instrument cluster. This could be a substitute for steps 4. and 5.
Thanks, it is beeping.

This is from the Shop manual:

Diagnosis and testing

Diagnostic Strategy

No Data Available
 

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Old 12-02-2012, 01:39 PM
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So you have the beeping, this means the j-gate assembly is getting GND. Next question, is it getting 12 VDC? It will probably be different for your XJ, but the fuse on the s type for that 12 VDC is F15, a 5 amp fuse, in the primary junction fuse box. This fuse is also for the transmission control module and the generator.


This is where the wingnut is located. You should be able to turn it with a long skinny screwdriver.
 
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Originally Posted by N9921x
My guess is electrical...
Great way to save gas, though.

If you cannot get it rolling, suggest using your tow insurance to get the unit to a dealership. Gas saving now gone.

Take care.
Don't you have to get car out of Park (into Neutral) for towing?
 
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Dolly under. Then cable up onto a flatbed tow truck.
My service does that.
Take care.
Looks like the manual lever is the way to go. PIA though.
Please get this problem fixed soon so you can enjoy your car!
 


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