Brake bleeding xjr
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Brake bleeding xjr
Hi all,
I have replaced and bled dozens of brake systems over the years but oddly, never an ABS system.
I am planning to replace all my rubber brake hoses and rebuild the calipers. What is the bleeding process afterwards or is it just the traditional pedal pump?
Thanks.
I have replaced and bled dozens of brake systems over the years but oddly, never an ABS system.
I am planning to replace all my rubber brake hoses and rebuild the calipers. What is the bleeding process afterwards or is it just the traditional pedal pump?
Thanks.
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With Jaguar's standard calipers on the front, it's possible to bleed then find a pedal that goes to the floor. A very small amount of air gets trapped above the bleed nipple. I've found the way to sort this - unbolt the caliper and wire it to the chassis/suspension so the nipple is upper most - then bleed. If you find a spongy pedal try this.
Braided hoses are a good upgrade.
Braided hoses are a good upgrade.
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jackra_1 (03-17-2017)
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The pressure bleeder is the way to go -- it pays for itself in so many ways.
You can make one -- I see people making them out of a small garden pump -- an old coiled compressor line and an extra brake tank cap ...
Or buy the basic Motive -- that's all you need.
You can make one -- I see people making them out of a small garden pump -- an old coiled compressor line and an extra brake tank cap ...
Or buy the basic Motive -- that's all you need.
Last edited by yeldogt; 03-18-2017 at 10:44 AM.
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It's been at least 5 years since I bought mine but I'm pretty sure it was the following product:
https://www.motiveproducts.com/colle...ropean-bleeder
There are adapters available for all different cars, but the European adapter would fit my BMW, my Volvo and has fit all four Jaguars we've owned.
Edit: Also this...
https://www.motiveproducts.com/colle...ropean-bleeder
There are adapters available for all different cars, but the European adapter would fit my BMW, my Volvo and has fit all four Jaguars we've owned.
Edit: Also this...
Last edited by harvest14; 03-17-2017 at 09:35 PM.
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You can call them. My memory is they have a list of what cars fit what cap model .. they sell different cap fitments ... the first comes with the unit.
FYI -- I don't fill the bottle with fluid unless I'm doing 3 cars .. I hate cleaning it. I empty (suck it out) the cars tank and fill it with fresh fluid ...... bleed one wheel and check amount -- fill it again. It's the first flush that takes the most fluid.
FYI -- I don't fill the bottle with fluid unless I'm doing 3 cars .. I hate cleaning it. I empty (suck it out) the cars tank and fill it with fresh fluid ...... bleed one wheel and check amount -- fill it again. It's the first flush that takes the most fluid.
Last edited by yeldogt; 03-18-2017 at 01:44 PM.
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I have never been a fan of pumping the brake pedal to bleed the brakes. It’s not unheard to have problems with the master brake cilinder not too long afterwards.
When you’re bleeding the piston will do a much longer stroke then normal. Dirt etc will have accumulated at top/bottom normal position. On older master cilinders you can also actually measure wear and tear, sort of a ridge forms around these normal piston position. When you pump the pedal you force the piston (and the seal(s) through all of this. Some system are much prone to problems then others. Don’t know about Jaguar in all honesty. But for instance the ATE on various Alfa’s are known to be vey susceptible to this phenomena.
So, I always use a power/pressure bleeder. Even carry a very simple Easy Bleed with my tools when we go on long drives. Works of the pressure of tire. Works a treat. Pedal pumping only as a last resort. I mean, you do want to get home!
The other main advantage, you can do the bleeding single handed!
When you’re bleeding the piston will do a much longer stroke then normal. Dirt etc will have accumulated at top/bottom normal position. On older master cilinders you can also actually measure wear and tear, sort of a ridge forms around these normal piston position. When you pump the pedal you force the piston (and the seal(s) through all of this. Some system are much prone to problems then others. Don’t know about Jaguar in all honesty. But for instance the ATE on various Alfa’s are known to be vey susceptible to this phenomena.
So, I always use a power/pressure bleeder. Even carry a very simple Easy Bleed with my tools when we go on long drives. Works of the pressure of tire. Works a treat. Pedal pumping only as a last resort. I mean, you do want to get home!
The other main advantage, you can do the bleeding single handed!