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i am thinking of adding to my jag collection and think my next one will be an XJS...but i am trying to decide which engine to go after the 12 or 6 cylinder...one factor is gas mileage, but i am wondering if there is much difference? naturally i am thinking a 6 would be better but what a well kept 12 won't it be close then?...any thoughts on which way i should go?
proud owner of 2 Jags
My Buffalo Jag = 1985 XJ6
My Miami Jag = 2001 XJR R1 Package
You pretty much answered your own question, in a weird kind of way.
The 6 cylinder will be better maintained just because it is a 6 cylinder, which nearly any mechanic can work out, and the AJ16 is one reliable Jag engine, as is the bolt on stuff that goes with it.
The V12 will be a BADLY maintained beast for the opposite reasons, as most mechanics do not understand 12 cylinders, work on them under sufference, and do ONLY what it take sto get it out of the workshop, and the 5.3 had MANY,MANY issues basically built in, a lot of Lucas (Prince of Darkness) stuff, wiring that fried itself due to bad placement, so on and so on. Then OLD AGE comes into it also.
The gas mileage is subjective. My '85 HE gets around 16L/100km around the burbs, and 11L/100km on interstate trips. The X300 gets around 13L/100km in the burbs, and 9.8l/100km on the last trip. I miss the pure GRUNT of the V12 on the open highway, but all in all life keeps moving on, as does the 6cylinder.
My XJ-S took 4 years of PASSIONATE work by myself to get it to be as reliable as any other car, so much so we have travelled the whole coast road of Australia (very long way) in it 3 times now and NEVER been let down.
I would buy a 6ltr if I was making this choice today.
'01 S Type 3ltr SE Silver (hers), '01 S Type 3l SE, Black (mine).
Some of the departed:
MK7, when I was 19. S Type 3.4. MK10 3.8. S2 XJ6 (2). S2 Daimler 4.2. S2 XJ12 EFI. Daimler 250. XJ40 3.6. S3 4.2. XJ-S HE. X300 3.2.
Jaguars only since 1968, have I missed something??.
I agree with Grant as for which engine to buy. I just recently purchased a XJS and did a fair amount of research before the purchase. Most of the articles leaned towards the 6 cyl. engine for reliability, some even stated that the performance is close to that of a V12. As for gas mileage, if driven the same, the 6 should easily get better gas mileage then the V12, but neither are going to be great.
FYI, If the XJS your looking at has inboard rear brakes, check them completely, including the parking brakes. After I bought my 93 XJS, I found that the rear inboards were trashed, even thou the previous owner told me he had replaced the pads. I shopped around for a mechanic and got quotes of between $2500-$4000 for the complete job. I ended up doing the complete job myself, but it still cost over $1000 in parts alone (rotors, calipers, brakes, etc.). As you already know, Jag repair can become very expensive, but you don't want a $4000 surprise immediately after you buy the car, like I did.
Good luck in your search.
My '88 XJS 5.3 V12 got about 12/13 mpg in city driving and about 20mpg on the highway. With careful driving below 70 mph I could manage 21/22 mpg highway.
My '95 XJR 4.0 six cylinder gets about 12/13 mpg in city driving and about 20mpg on the highway. With careful driving below 70 mph I can manage 22/23 mpg highway.
My '87 XJ6 4.2 six cylinder got about 12/13 mpg in city driving and about 19 mpg on the highway. With careful driving below 70 mph I could manage 20/21 mpg highway.
Bit of a pattern, eh? :-)
In fairness I've often heard from others who manage better results. A 4.0 XJS coupe would be lighter than any of the above cars so it might do better.
Most people seem very happy with the 4.0 XJSs. I wouldn't mind having one myself. However, if the car will be used only for weekend pleasure driving I'd be tempted to to get a facelift V12. Those 6.0 V12s are a real powerhouse.
Pacific Northwest USA
1988 Series III VDP V12
1985 Series III XJ6
I've had both the V12 ('83) and the 4.0 AJ16 ('95 Convertible) and I much prefer the 6. I use my '95 as my DD and the car is dead nuts reliable, estimated gas mileage is in the 18-22/24 mpg range. It handles better, is more responsive, easier to maintain and repair. In terms of "livability" the 6 wins hands down. Just my two cents...
I've read up on this some. To me, the V12 has the mystique folks want but the expense nobody wants. From looking at prices on EBay the V12 cars have prices that are in the toilet and the "expensive ones" are around 5-7K. If you have to have the 12 I'd buy nothing but a car that someone else has spent a fortune on. Otherwise I would assume it is a turd.