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Safari (05-25-2016)
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It is a one man job to get the dash and console out. It is a two man job to get the aircon unit out as it weights about 40 kilos and needs someone each side to remove it without wrecking wiring, vac tubes etc etc. If you do get to it, post beforehand and I'll try to write up what I did. A video of what you have to do would be a terrific resource for the forum. the big thing is to label each side of all the loom plugs you undo, and take VERY many very detailed and careful shots of exactly where the two huge fat looms that go over the top of the unit are placed. There is only just room for them between the dash and the unit and the instrument binnacle.
This is what you need for the pozi bits: Milwaukee 1" 25mm PZ2 50 Screwdriver Bits Pozi 2 Drill Shockwave Impact Duty | eBay
Short ones. All the cross headed screws on the XJS are pozis.
Greg
This is what you need for the pozi bits: Milwaukee 1" 25mm PZ2 50 Screwdriver Bits Pozi 2 Drill Shockwave Impact Duty | eBay
Short ones. All the cross headed screws on the XJS are pozis.
Greg
#23
If you mean a loose nut holding the big return hose onto the evaporator pipe that pokes through the bulkhead, no. But you do need to replace the little O ring in that joint and then do up the nuts carefully and not too tight, just enough. It is this operation that must be done with a spanner on each nut, the one on the hose and the one of the evaporator fitting so there is no strain on the evaporator pipe.
The aircon unit's evaporator is a one piece effort with nuts and other fittings somehow fixed on the copper feed and return tubes of the evaporator matrix itself. It is these nuts you have to support while doing or undoing the hose and valve connections on the engine side of the bulkhead, or the tubes twist and fracture. If these tubes are fractured you have no choice but to remove the aicon unit to get at them.
This is the sort of thing it looks like (I an NOT saying this particular one is correct for your vehicle):
Jaguar XJ Series 3, XJS Air Conditioning Evaporator (AEU1191-A) - JustJagsUK.com=
There are much cheaper ones on ebay.com which say they fit, but whether they do or not I have no idea, but maybe if you know an aircon guy they can be made to fit/work with a bit of braising etc etc and a load of money saved. A second hand unit is Ok as long as you give it a thorough test that it will hold pressure for several days before you fit it.
Greg
The aircon unit's evaporator is a one piece effort with nuts and other fittings somehow fixed on the copper feed and return tubes of the evaporator matrix itself. It is these nuts you have to support while doing or undoing the hose and valve connections on the engine side of the bulkhead, or the tubes twist and fracture. If these tubes are fractured you have no choice but to remove the aicon unit to get at them.
This is the sort of thing it looks like (I an NOT saying this particular one is correct for your vehicle):
Jaguar XJ Series 3, XJS Air Conditioning Evaporator (AEU1191-A) - JustJagsUK.com=
There are much cheaper ones on ebay.com which say they fit, but whether they do or not I have no idea, but maybe if you know an aircon guy they can be made to fit/work with a bit of braising etc etc and a load of money saved. A second hand unit is Ok as long as you give it a thorough test that it will hold pressure for several days before you fit it.
Greg
Last edited by Greg in France; 03-20-2016 at 02:32 PM.
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macdoesit (03-21-2016)
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...Jimmy
#25
http://www.aa1car.com/library/pagoil.htm Super good a/c reference chart here........http://www.johnsens.com/uploads/file...cantguide4.pdf
My 86 XJS w/ Harrison takes PAG 150 with its r134 conversion
My 97 XJ6L with Denso unit takes PAG46. I've put compressors and vac'd/ serviced both cars. I try to stick with the recommended PAG requirements.
My 86 XJS w/ Harrison takes PAG 150 with its r134 conversion
My 97 XJ6L with Denso unit takes PAG46. I've put compressors and vac'd/ serviced both cars. I try to stick with the recommended PAG requirements.
Last edited by JTsmks; 03-20-2016 at 08:27 PM.
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Greg in France (05-26-2016)
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If you mean a loose nut holding the big return hose onto the evaporator pipe that pokes through the bulkhead, no. But you do need to replace the little O ring in that joint and then do up the nuts carefully and not too tight, just enough. It is this operation that must be done with a spanner on each nut, the one on the hose and the one of the evaporator fitting so there is no strain on the evaporator pipe.
The aircon unit's evaporator is a one piece effort with nuts and other fittings somehow fixed on the copper feed and return tubes of the evaporator matrix itself. It is these nuts you have to support while doing or undoing the hose and valve connections on the engine side of the bulkhead, or the tubes twist and fracture. If these tubes are fractured you have no choice but to remove the aicon unit to get at them.
This is the sort of thing it looks like (I an NOT saying this particular one is correct for your vehicle):
Jaguar XJ Series 3, XJS Air Conditioning Evaporator (AEU1191-A) - JustJagsUK.com=
There are much cheaper ones on ebay.com which say they fit, but whether they do or not I have no idea, but maybe if you know an aircon guy they can be made to fit/work with a bit of braising etc etc and a load of money saved. A second hand unit is Ok as long as you give it a thorough test that it will hold pressure for several days before you fit it.
Greg
The aircon unit's evaporator is a one piece effort with nuts and other fittings somehow fixed on the copper feed and return tubes of the evaporator matrix itself. It is these nuts you have to support while doing or undoing the hose and valve connections on the engine side of the bulkhead, or the tubes twist and fracture. If these tubes are fractured you have no choice but to remove the aicon unit to get at them.
This is the sort of thing it looks like (I an NOT saying this particular one is correct for your vehicle):
Jaguar XJ Series 3, XJS Air Conditioning Evaporator (AEU1191-A) - JustJagsUK.com=
There are much cheaper ones on ebay.com which say they fit, but whether they do or not I have no idea, but maybe if you know an aircon guy they can be made to fit/work with a bit of braising etc etc and a load of money saved. A second hand unit is Ok as long as you give it a thorough test that it will hold pressure for several days before you fit it.
Greg
It will be 5 to 6 weeks before I attempt the AC repair. I want to thank you for all the info and when I start the project I'm sure I will have more questions.
Thanks again
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Greg in France (03-22-2016)
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Sorry to restart an old thread, but the PAG150 oil I used when working on my AC system was used based off of this website:
Jaguar Refrigerant and oil capacity charts || TechChoice Parts
It was found on the internet, so I didn't consider that it could have been wrong.
Jaguar Refrigerant and oil capacity charts || TechChoice Parts
It was found on the internet, so I didn't consider that it could have been wrong.
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You'll also need some PAG150 oil.
I've got a used 2004 XJ8 with 100K miles that may never have had its refrigerant changed. The AC isn't the least bit cold. The refrigerant low port reads 0 PSIG (it's just at atmospheric pressure); the hi port reads 50 PSIG. I want to just blow in some more R134a without flushing it, but I suspect a lot of oil has leaked out.
Also, Jaguar manuals call for PAG 46, not PAG 150. Are they compatible?
Last edited by Xeno; 07-29-2023 at 10:23 PM. Reason: add another question
#30
But how much oil? The 2004-2007 X350 is supposed to have 6.1 oz of oil in the AC system. The compressor holds about 3 oz of oil, I hear. Does the rest of the oil evaporate under vacuum? Should you add 3 oz of oil if you vacuum down the AC and recharge it?
Also, Jaguar manuals call for PAG 46, not PAG 150. Are they compatible?
Also, Jaguar manuals call for PAG 46, not PAG 150. Are they compatible?
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