Do you ever use your low gears?
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Glad to hear about all this fun downshifting
Personally, I prefer the awesome and true acceleration feel of my XJR, which no XJS can even come close to (well, except for my own XJS). To put a smile on my face is either a 0 to 60 stint in the low five's or a quarter mile drag, only that I believe the latter is just too much stress on a daily driver car or a show car that is not prepared to actually race, not prepared for an all out 15 whole seconds with your foot on the floor at as high rpm's that it can possibly sustain for that long. I'm just affraid to break my beautiful kitty(s), what can I say?... However, I'll accept an invitation at the traffic light, but that's always a short "safe" race and my XJR can hold its own and few cars will come even close to it. That significant push on your back is what serious acceleration is about, plus it also gets you from A to B really quick...
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Personally, I prefer the awesome and true acceleration feel of my XJR, which no XJS can even come close to (well, except for my own XJS). To put a smile on my face is either a 0 to 60 stint in the low five's or a quarter mile drag, only that I believe the latter is just too much stress on a daily driver car or a show car that is not prepared to actually race, not prepared for an all out 15 whole seconds with your foot on the floor at as high rpm's that it can possibly sustain for that long. I'm just affraid to break my beautiful kitty(s), what can I say?... However, I'll accept an invitation at the traffic light, but that's always a short "safe" race and my XJR can hold its own and few cars will come even close to it. That significant push on your back is what serious acceleration is about, plus it also gets you from A to B really quick...
Cheers,
My daily driver is a lazy old XJ6 that I took to the track and never gave it a second thought that it wasn't race prepped. I gave it a whole lot more than 15 seconds with the foot to the floor in second.
I took everything that car had to give for two 20 minute sessions on a race track and drove it home again afterwards, and it ran sweeter than ever. It might not be as fast as some but it took a fair thrashing and probably would have handled more if I had tried a bit harder.
I have done laps of the same track in a 450bhp V8 coupe and not had as much fun.....if only I had a V12 to do the same with.
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04-26-2015, 07:26 AM
Back in 1974-1975 I was working at the British Leyland dealer. At the time we were running leaded gasoline and the US cars had 4 Zenith-Stromberg carburetors. When the Jac V12's came in for a tune up they would get the normal plugs, filters, timing, etc. In almost all cases, when road tested, they would misfire, and generally run lousy, until I would run them foot to the floor, up to about 90-100 in second gear half a dozen times to burn off the carbon deposits. Apparently your typical XJ12 or even E-Type owner did not put their foot down very often.
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However, here's an example of some XJS owners who really know how to wring-out their cars to the absolute max. It's a little brutal to watch, though. These guys are maniacs:
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04-26-2015, 11:38 AM
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Glad to hear about all this fun downshifting the V12's. Fun aside, I was wondering how serious this acceleration actually is, as in 0 to 60 times.
Personally, ... not prepared for an all out 15 whole seconds with your foot on the floor at as high rpm's that it can possibly sustain for that long. I'm just affraid to break my beautiful kitty(s), what can I say?...
Cheers,
Personally, ... not prepared for an all out 15 whole seconds with your foot on the floor at as high rpm's that it can possibly sustain for that long. I'm just affraid to break my beautiful kitty(s), what can I say?...
Cheers,
Nothing, repeat nothing, you can do to a V12 on the road will remotely inconvenience it. You might blow duff water hoses and show up weak points, but mechanically the car will not break over 15 or for that matter 61 seconds flat in the gears
I used to do a great fun thing called the Woodbridge Speed Trial, and that consisted of about 1 1/4 miles flat out down a runway from a standing start. Did it loads of runs, car never ran better!
Greg
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The majority of Jags I see on the road are driven as though they were made out of glass. I've spoken with Jag owners who will refuse to use full throttle for fear of breaking something. I'm not joking.
However, here's an example of some XJS owners who really know how to wring-out their cars to the absolute max. It's a little brutal to watch, though. These guys are maniacs:
Jaguar XJS handling - YouTube
Cheers
DD
However, here's an example of some XJS owners who really know how to wring-out their cars to the absolute max. It's a little brutal to watch, though. These guys are maniacs:
Jaguar XJS handling - YouTube
Cheers
DD
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Great idea. I put a leaper each side, same idea to glam it up a bit. Interesting point (above) about the extra fan switch and converted cruise switch.
Like the car you fettled, O mighty One, I got rid of the cruise (mainly to de-clutter the V) and in my case I converted the console cruise resume/off switch to be the electric main fan manual over-ride! A tasteful small chrome LED warning light being where your client's fan switch is!
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Like the car you fettled, O mighty One, I got rid of the cruise (mainly to de-clutter the V) and in my case I converted the console cruise resume/off switch to be the electric main fan manual over-ride! A tasteful small chrome LED warning light being where your client's fan switch is!
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leaper on the side ,1994!
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Hi guys
Just wondering for those with automatic transmission, do you, or have you, ever used your low gears?
I dropped down to second once going up a hill and she practically flew up there like a rocket. Once I got to the top of the hill I had to pull over as she started overheating (since got that problem fixed, blocked radiator) and I haven't touched since then.
The other day I was doing a cruise session on a racetrack and we had a spot on the straight where you could floor it. Only a cruise so I just stayed in drive (being overtaken by others!
)
Can't help but think if I had of dropped her into the lower gear (just 2) she would of took off but....she is my daily driver and I'm a little afraid to get those revs too high for too long.
Anybody know what sort of damaged can be done or had similar experiences? (Obviously we are assuming you have all fluids in check and your radiator is working ok)
Just wondering for those with automatic transmission, do you, or have you, ever used your low gears?
I dropped down to second once going up a hill and she practically flew up there like a rocket. Once I got to the top of the hill I had to pull over as she started overheating (since got that problem fixed, blocked radiator) and I haven't touched since then.
The other day I was doing a cruise session on a racetrack and we had a spot on the straight where you could floor it. Only a cruise so I just stayed in drive (being overtaken by others!
)Can't help but think if I had of dropped her into the lower gear (just 2) she would of took off but....she is my daily driver and I'm a little afraid to get those revs too high for too long.
Anybody know what sort of damaged can be done or had similar experiences? (Obviously we are assuming you have all fluids in check and your radiator is working ok)
paul i do use low gear sometimes,LOL, 4speed automatic 700R4.
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05-19-2015, 11:17 AM
Tried Greg's acceleration post
For absolutely max acceleration, shove it in 1 on the stick and floor the pedal and LEAVE IT floored, never lifting. The 3 speed TH 400 will shift into 2 automatically, regardless of the stick position at the correct moment. Then, still holding the foot to the floor shove the stick into 2 (the gearbox is already there as I said). In stick 2, the box WILL NOT change up. When your nerve breaks or 5,700 to 6,000 rpm (whichever comes first, shove the stick into 3, foot still hard down.
At this 2 to 3 stick shift at those revs you will be doing well over the ton, maybe 120 MPH. With the decent breathing mods I mentioned, the thing will pull like a train to 150 plus MPH. The correct rated tyres in top condition being VERY important at these speeds!
FWIW, 120 MPH does not feel that much faster than 90 MPH in an XJS, to me. But as soon as I got to the 130s and beyond (I was a good deal younger then) I found the qualitative difference was HUGE, and hardly dared take my eyes off the road to even glance at the speedo. Basically things seemed to happen very fast indeed at those speeds.
The Jaguar marketing people junked the HE badge in favour of the V12 badge about half way through the 1985 year of manufacture. My car, like Grant's departed, is an early 1985 build date, but later 1985s and onwards (build date) all had the V12 badge. new OEM HE badges are pretty rare to find nowadays, but there are lots of V12s around, also lots of owners swapped their HE badge for the V12.
Greg
At this 2 to 3 stick shift at those revs you will be doing well over the ton, maybe 120 MPH. With the decent breathing mods I mentioned, the thing will pull like a train to 150 plus MPH. The correct rated tyres in top condition being VERY important at these speeds!
FWIW, 120 MPH does not feel that much faster than 90 MPH in an XJS, to me. But as soon as I got to the 130s and beyond (I was a good deal younger then) I found the qualitative difference was HUGE, and hardly dared take my eyes off the road to even glance at the speedo. Basically things seemed to happen very fast indeed at those speeds.
The Jaguar marketing people junked the HE badge in favour of the V12 badge about half way through the 1985 year of manufacture. My car, like Grant's departed, is an early 1985 build date, but later 1985s and onwards (build date) all had the V12 badge. new OEM HE badges are pretty rare to find nowadays, but there are lots of V12s around, also lots of owners swapped their HE badge for the V12.
Greg
It's awesome. Mine spins the tires when it finally up shifts to 2nd
Pretty impressive
Thanks for that
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05-19-2015, 02:50 PM
I spent a lot of time and money (more time probably) getting my car up to speed and my car is awesome. I love that thing. It was a non running pud when I bought it and now I am so happy with it. I have things to do still but at least I can drive it now. Any excuse to go somewhere in it and I'm there.
Only problem is it has a serious musty old car grandmas attic smell to it that gets in your clothes and makes you smell too after a short period. Not sure how to deal with it. A headliner is on the todo list and then maybe an ionization bomb or whatever they do could solve it.
Anyone ever have a musty ol jag they got to smell normal?????
Only problem is it has a serious musty old car grandmas attic smell to it that gets in your clothes and makes you smell too after a short period. Not sure how to deal with it. A headliner is on the todo list and then maybe an ionization bomb or whatever they do could solve it.
Anyone ever have a musty ol jag they got to smell normal?????
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05-19-2015, 03:36 PM
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You've probably got water sitting under the carpets and rotting them out from underneath so pull them up (front and back) and check. Rain usually leaks in through the screen seals (front and rear) or flows in through the heater blowers because the drains are blocked and then collects in the floor pans..
Or you've got a dead rodent in there somewhere!
Or you've got a dead rodent in there somewhere!
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05-20-2015, 08:31 AM
Anyone ever have a musty ol jag they got to smell normal?????
As for giving it a bit of a squirt, Ever time I drive it!
I didn't know it would change up when held in first, but then I simply can't wait till I do away with that woeful automatic, so care factor in this case is zero.
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