Hey guys,

It is really getting on my nerves, that no company here is willing to get me a bearing...

As the fan bearing isn't available and is only half a waterpump bearibg, I'be found two that would fit and work BUT nobody wants to supply any...

Do we have anybody here who has contacts in the bearing industry? Either resale/trade or production?

Cheers

Damien

 

Haim
Have you tried any UK suppliers? If not:
For ball bearings supplying worldwide, call Vintage Bearing Co
or
Bearings: Ball Bearing, Needle Roller, Linear & Thrust Bearings
or
https://www.bearingboys.co.uk/Bearings-1005-c
or
Bearing Shop UK - Bearings, Belts, Seals, O Rings, Pulleys


I suggest that you talk to them on the phone, and send in the old one for them to match what you want. UK guys are very used to this sort of thing.
Greg

 

Greg,

thanks for the links. I've tried 3 of them, all saying "nope, no way to get hold of one". The last one is currently having a look and wants to get back to me, but I doubt they will be able to find one...

This is really crud. I don't want to buy a used one, as I'll probably have the same problems with it as mine has (too much play in the shaft which won't dissappear when warm as it is far too much). I even know of bearings that would work but I can't get hold of them because nobody wants to sell them! Grrrrrrr...

 

Okay, change of plan - at least maybe...

What would you think, Greg, of changing the setup as such completely?

My thoughts were, instead of using a sealed bearing as it is the case, to press the shaft out (I need the shaft) and press on two normal sized bearings (sealed, like modern wheel bearings) and use it like that?

I mean, I doubt it would need to be properly sealed like it is at the moment... The forces should be the same... Maybe even machine two grooves into the shaft and fit two circlips to secure it a tad better... Not that the fan blades then drive themselves forwards into the radiator and throught the radiator grill and fly away... Haha

 

Daim:


My only thought would be to widen the search. Might work, but make your pocket book slimmer.


At one time, a specialty shop existed in near to here Pittsburgh, CA. I forget what I found there, a seal or bearing. But definitely advanced that project.


Google or ask me to check, I'll be more than willing to do so.


Carl

 

I've found a company in Britain, which seems willing to sell but they need to request some prices first...

 

Well, all leads went to a dead end...

So I'll be seeing if I can "build a bearing" myself.

My idea was now rather "simple": press the shaft out of the current bearing, see if I can get 2 bearings with a 38.1 mm diameter and of course sealed. If I can get two, see if I can either get the shaft to fit into the bearings OR either have it machined to fit OR get a larger one... Depending on what is possible... I know the end MUST be 18.xx mm diameter in order to press the shaft on.

I was also thinking, if I can get a single sided sealed bearing, install a grease nipple so I can lubricate the bearings regularly... Sounds stupid but it is always better to have fresh grease in a bearing.

Any other suggestions (other than convert to electrical fans or buy a used part)?

 

Hi Damien. I'm amazed suppliers can't supply! That given, then I for one, like your DIY approach . . . provided you have access to a machine shop, lathe etc. Turning up a new shaft to fit "found" bearing(s) is not then a killer expense. If not, suggest you find someone locally - perhaps a retired engineer or hobby machinist.

As always with this sort of work, I would caution against using your own w/pump. Go buy a used one in even worse condition than yours, and play with that. Little lost if you run into major problems but, if OK, repeat for your own . . . thereby a spare or sell on.

Best wishes and please keep us posted on your results,

Ken

 

Daim,

I am a tad late, normal for me I know.

This Water Pump (Integral shaft) bearing chart is from SKF, and I reckon SKF would be in your neck of the woods.

I got some years ago for the A/C ilder on the V12, when the air pump is deleted.

The ones I got were 5/8" shaft, and I had to cut the one shaft off for that idler, and then grind a very small flat in the outer casing for the grub screw locker.

That bearing company is gone now, which is a tad sad really.

Water pump bearing chart SKF.pdf

 

Grant,

Even SKF is hard to get hold of

 

Bloody hell, and I thought Australia was going down the drain.

GM gone, Ford gone, Toyota, just holding on, Nissan gone long ago, Mazda, gone, and now bugger all manufacturing, which was attached to the Auto industry.

Let me know the sizes, OD OD length, and shaft size, and I will talk to a mate at a wholesaler, maybe.

 

Gtant,

It is dreadful here. If you aren't a business, you can't buy. If you are a business, they don't answer.

One bearing which would work is WB170911 (out of the SKF/INA/Schäffler/*** list). Just need one side of the shaft with at least 35 mm shaft length... That is it...

 

I will call him in the morning, 10pm here, and for some bizzare reason, he is not at work, which I find rather slack, especially when there is a Jagaur in need of parts, hahaha.

 

Cheers Grant!

How dare he not be at work... I think it is really disappointing and morally bad to put one's personal life above customers and companies...

 

WOW, i cant imagine an old Jag NOT needing parts, is there anything like that anywhere? LOL.

RON

 

Diam, go ahead and make up the bearing as you described, it will work OR it wont work!!

its not like you are going to drive to Scotland or something, on 1st drive!

ron

 

I mean, you are right, Ron... And if it doesn't last long, I'd notice it anyhow... Just was hoping to get it done "easily" instead of machining (which would have to be "out scorced" due to my lack of machining skills and tools...

 

OK,

Shiit load of calls later.

SKF do not bring water pump bearings into OZ.

The 2 standard water pump bearings are:

FPS 061
29.97mm OD
5/8" shaft both ends

FPS 072
38.1mm OD
3/4" (19mm) shaft both ends.
54.1mm body length.

So, the FPS 072 is what I reckon you want, BUT, they are $67.00AUS, plus postage.

Damn they be expensive. Last ones I got were the small ones for the idler, and $10 each. But is was 15+ years ago.

I reckon that good old Google will find some locally for you.

 

Sheesh Ron . . . driving from Bremen to Scotland? . . . I wouldn't attempt that in any Jag . . . even if it is fitted with aqualungs and flippers!

Cheers

Ken

 

Grant, Thanks an awful lot! At long last a price for a bearing... Can't get any of them here. Not a ball bearing. It is still cheaper than no bearing...