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Old 12-08-2016, 11:20 AM
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Now the hard work begins ... Good luck, and keep us informed. Maybe Steve (White XKR) can help.

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Sean -my addition to the words of wisdom in your signature:
"If a man speaks in the forest and his wife isn't there to hear him, is he still wrong?" - Confucius, maybe.
 

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The pictures you posted show the climate as 'off', and you said the 'auto' button works. Does that change the display?
 
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Originally Posted by Sean W
Update time:

I received the touchscreen yesterday an installed this morning.

The Fakra connector still hasn't come in and I've yet to order a camera, but thought I would test the touchscreen swap.

Mixed news. After the install, I did a hard reset on the battery which was already disconnected. Upon starting the car.

All features work EXCEPT climate. Initially it didn't display properly. The second time I started the car, the buttons appear but are grayed out.

The seat heater and steering wheel heat function worked both times. The Auto button works, the off button does nothing.
Thank you for the update. I see you have phone signal strength now, did you have that before? I also like the new color scheme.

I wonder if the new screen needs to be initialized somehow, maybe through IDS? Or maybe the climate control protocols are different? Do the hard buttons still work such as fan speed, temp, recirc?

EDIT: Also all NAV and audio and car settings work 100%?
 

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Originally Posted by Stuart S
"If a man speaks in the forest and his wife isn't there to hear him, is he still wrong?" - Confucius, maybe.
Seen the following attributed to George Carlin:

If a man is standing in the middle of a forest speaking & there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? - George Carlin
 
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Old 12-08-2016, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
The pictures you posted show the climate as 'off', and you said the 'auto' button works. Does that change the display?
Some clarification. When I touch the Auto button on the screen, the Auto function on the knob below the panel lights up and the fan goes to high. It's 20 degrees outside so I think it's doing what it should - HOWEVER- nothing on the touchscreen changes. the hard buttons all appear to be working but the internal temp settings are not visible on display.

The seat warmers are working. The steering wheel heat flashes color briefly, then returns but the steering wheel does start to heat.

The vents and A/C are still grayed out.

When I touch the off button on climate it changes color briefly but doesn't do anything else.

If I can get some help figuring out the climate, the other features are kind of cool. There are some additional pics to select in off mode, in addition to the Jaguar and the clock.
You can pick a blue or green color scheme

My phone book was completely visible.

Yes I had phone signal strength with the upgrade of the BT module.

Nav worked to the degree that I tested it which was just to confirm my current location (map on and showed correct)

All audio worked, including FM (didn't try AM), CD and iPod.

I connected to IDS but had no specific codes related to climate and I'm not sure what to try next. I will however, reconnect my OEM screen to see if it still works.

Steve, Cambo, any ideas you can steer me to try with IDS?

I'm hoping this isn't some differentiation between the information control module(XF) and the infotainment control module (XK)
 
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Ah crap.... well we weren't 100% sure if it would work, seems we know now.

The Integrated Audio Module is shared between the XK and the XF, which is why the sound system, phone, etc all works fine.

I did not consider the climate controls. Let me see what i can find out...
 
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Although the climate control system between the two appears to be more or less the same components, the climate control modules in the XK & XF have different part numbers which tells me different software...

Any info on this! (reverse camera)-screen-shot-12-09-16-08.50-am-001.jpg

Any info on this! (reverse camera)-screen-shot-12-09-16-08.50-am.jpg

Where to from here?

Either give up, or we have to dig deeper into the Climate Control Module... but if it's a case of having to swap the Climate Control Module as well, this is way too much stuffing around to get a bloody reverse camera working...
 
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:24 PM
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I'd hate to give up now as I'm kind of liking the other screen functions (most specifically phone directory which I use a lot) I can get a module on the cheap if that's all it takes but I'd like to explore another option, unless the quickest and safest route is to swap the CCM.



I received two DTC's
U300055

Control Module
Incorrect car configuration data received

Re-configure the RJB using the manufacturer approved diagnostic system. Clear DTC and re-test. If the DTC remains suspect the climate control module. Check and install a new module as required, refer to the new module/component installation note at the top of the DTC Index

U300087

Control Module
Missing message

Re-configure the RJB using the manufacturer approved diagnostic system. Check climate control module for DTCs and refer to the DTC Index. Carry out CAN network integrity tests using the manufacturer approved diagnostic system. If DTC remains suspect the climate control module. Check and install a new module as required, refer to the new module/component installation note at the top of the DTC Index

So how does one go about reconfiguring the rear junction box vis IDS/SSD?

Is this too risky to a point of no return on the vehicle? I don't want to brick anything obviously, but still willing to try to make it work.
 
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:41 PM
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How difficult and costly would it be to do? I didn't look up the price but sometimes it's not about cost or difficultly but about just being able to do it.

Originally Posted by Cambo
Although the climate control system between the two appears to be more or less the same components, the climate control modules in the XK & XF have different part numbers which tells me different software...

Attachment 139981

Attachment 139982

Where to from here?

Either give up, or we have to dig deeper into the Climate Control Module... but if it's a case of having to swap the Climate Control Module as well, this is way too much stuffing around to get a bloody reverse camera working...
 
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Don't try any reprogrammming, I need to bounce this off the experts, see what they think.

The risk here now is we end up in a cascade-effect, change this, which needs another change, which needs another change, etc...

The RJB is quite an important module so you do not just jump in and start playing with it.

So i'd suggest for the time being put the original XK screen back in and we'll pick this up again once I get some direction from the guru's.
 

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Old 12-08-2016, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Don't try any reprogrammming, I need to bounce this off the experts, see what they think.

The risk here now is we end up in a cascade-effect, change this, which needs another change, which needs another change, etc...

The RJB is quite an important module so you do not just jump in and start playing with it.

So i'd suggest for the time being put the original XK screen back in and we'll pick this up again once I get some direction from the guru's.
I'll still see if the camera functionality is there once the parts arrive, as that was the original intent of this project. Even if there's more involved than a touchscreen swap, we can lay it all out for everyone just to have the info.

We'll wait for your reply on the climate module swap vs programming when you hear from them. I will not attempt any programming without significant input and specific direction. I'm not one to fire up the SDD and start pushing buttons.

Thanks Cambo
 
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I hope I am wrong, but most likely different cars = different software.
 
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Originally Posted by Sean W
I'll still see if the camera functionality is there once the parts arrive, as that was the original intent of this project. Even if there's more involved than a touchscreen swap, we can lay it all out for everyone just to have the info.

We'll wait for your reply on the climate module swap vs programming when you hear from them. I will not attempt any programming without significant input and specific direction. I'm not one to fire up the SDD and start pushing buttons.

Thanks Cambo
Sean, I have to give you major props for working on this project. Being the first to tear your car apart to perform upgrades is daunting but you have jumped in with both feet.
 
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Sean check your emails
 
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Old 12-13-2016, 07:02 PM
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Soooo.....any news?
 
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Stuck for the time being but we're working on it.
 
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:48 PM
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I think I'm going to call the XF touch screen experiment DOA at this point.

From previous posts in the thread, the install as plug and play of the XF touchscreen lead to no climate controls in my 2007 XK.

We subsequently flashed the module to 2010. Still no climate functions on the touchscreen.
I sent the session files to Cambo and he's working on them, but in the interim and more importantly, I was unable to get the camera running.

So, following the flash of the XF touch screen (part 8X23-10E889-AD) to 2010 XK config in a 2007 XK-

No climate control via touch screen.

Activated Park assist camera in SDD.
Wired camera directly to battery + and - and connected to back of FCDIM via Fakra (Brown) connector to no avail.

Cambo, I can't thank you enough for all you've done.

I'll keep the touch screen for a while longer before putting it back on ebay, if you want to prove out that the XF screen can be successfully flashed to 2010 XK.

Sorry gents. I was hopeful...
 
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Sean, thank you for the update even if it was not successful. May have to give up on this one.
 
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Thanks for trying, too bad it didn't work out (yet...).
Guess all the eggs remain in Steve's basket for a 'clean' solution.
 
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We haven't given up yet, it takes time to work through the problem.

The compatibility issue between the climate control module in the 07 XK and the touchscreen from an XF / 2010 onward XK may or may not be a big deal, but "proceed with caution" is the name of the game, so it takes longer.
 
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