ARCO gas? (I know, I know...)
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ARCO gas? (I know, I know...)
So I've got a fairly older (2010) XKR with low miles (20K). Just had an injector replaced, and put some additive in.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
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So I've got a fairly older (2010) XKR with low miles (20K). Just had an injector replaced, and put some additive in.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
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So I've got a fairly older (2010) XKR with low miles (20K). Just had an injector replaced, and put some additive in.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
I live in LA, so ARCO gas is an option. A few people have suggested that ARCO gas is not so good, and in fact may have been a factor.
It's listed as a "Top Tier" gas.
Any thoughts? I'd be willing to pay a little more if it really is money well spent.
Fact is that virtually all gasoline comes from one or maybe two refineries in a given area. The ONLY difference from one retailer to another is the additive package which is blended in as the fuel is loaded on the delivery truck.
As to the over rated 'top tier' marketing scheme. a recent study done by AAA has shown that the difference between so called 'crap gas' (if there is such a thing) and top tier is negligible.
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Does it/did it sit for long periods of time without being driven? All gas will start to varnish after about a month or so. Those tiny injector holes can get clogged easily. Top Tier gas is supposed to have more detergent which helps with the clogging but only if it's running. Pour a fuel system cleaner in about twice a year for maintenance. I've use Techron for ages but there are others that get good reviews.
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Sorry but that's patently false. Hundreds of thousands of vehicles get stored for months or years without issue.
False again. Read the AAA report.
Jag explicitly prohibits fuel additives. Modern gasoline contains all the required additives, in the correct amounts. More is not better.
Injector problems on modern cars are virtually unheard of. Blaming the fuel for those rare exceptions is groundless.
Injector problems on modern cars are virtually unheard of. Blaming the fuel for those rare exceptions is groundless.
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False again. Read the AAA report.
Jag explicitly prohibits fuel additives. Modern gasoline contains all the required additives, in the correct amounts. More is not better.
Injector problems on modern cars are virtually unheard of. Blaming the fuel for those rare exceptions is groundless.
Injector problems on modern cars are virtually unheard of. Blaming the fuel for those rare exceptions is groundless.
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that today's gas with 10% ethanol will last 90 days before it starts to gel. This has been a problem in the small engine line such as garden tractors , lawn mowers and snow blowers. It now is a thriving business for these shops who clean these carbs on a regular basis. I wonder if 90+ days affects injectors.
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that today's gas with 10% ethanol will last 90 days before it starts to gel. This has been a problem in the small engine line such as garden tractors , lawn mowers and snow blowers. It now is a thriving business for these shops who clean these carbs on a regular basis. I wonder if 90+ days affects injectors.
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The one time I put "crap gas" from a discounter into my old Porsche 944, it sputtered terribly and ran poorly until I got a fresh tank. So either the AAA study is not 100% correct or I am the unluckiest person around.
Now here's an article that summarizes the study; the differences in gasoline don't look negligible to me.
AAA Study Finds Drastic Differences In Gasoline Quality
Now here's an article that summarizes the study; the differences in gasoline don't look negligible to me.
AAA Study Finds Drastic Differences In Gasoline Quality
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Based on some clueless friend who believes the old myth that one retailer has better 'grade' gas than another even though it all comes from the same refinery.
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Now here's an article that summarizes the study; the differences in gasoline don't look negligible to me.
AAA Study Finds Drastic Differences In Gasoline Quality
Only a minority of retailers here in Canada are top tier. If there was an marked difference in vehicle operation with/without- I'd expect to see a lot of poorly operating vehicles. There isn't. Fuel-related engine problems are unheard of.
It's interesting to note that neither Jag nor it's former parent company Ford endorse the use of top tier fuel.
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that today's gas with 10% ethanol will last 90 days before it starts to gel. This has been a problem in the small engine line such as garden tractors , lawn mowers and snow blowers. It now is a thriving business for these shops who clean these carbs on a regular basis. I wonder if 90+ days affects injectors.
I've been using E10 for decaces, never had a problem. Keep the container closed and drain the fuel tanks and carb at the end of the season.
None of this affects injectors as there's no oxygen getting at the fuel.
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Thanks, all.
As regards sitting, I'm the second owner of the car. Bought it a year ago with 8,000 miles on it, and as per the carfax, the owner bought it in the fall of 2009 so he got one of the first ones in SoCal. He had it for over 5 years, so he put about 1,500 miles a year on it. So I'm guessing it HAD to have sat for a while at some point.
I've driven it about 14,000 miles since then. It's my daily.
As regards sitting, I'm the second owner of the car. Bought it a year ago with 8,000 miles on it, and as per the carfax, the owner bought it in the fall of 2009 so he got one of the first ones in SoCal. He had it for over 5 years, so he put about 1,500 miles a year on it. So I'm guessing it HAD to have sat for a while at some point.
I've driven it about 14,000 miles since then. It's my daily.
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I've read that before. It's a last ditch attempt at an in-situ repair for a stuck injector and is NOT a scheduled preventative maintenance task.
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Anyone can get beat on a tank of gas at some point(s) in their life.
I really don't think there's a difference between brands, or a difference worth driving additionally for. The entrance and egress of the gas station are the most important to me!
I use Techron on in all cars. One bottle a year or so. Never had an injector or fuel issue in 25+ years using it. Could be wasted money, but Costco darn near gives it away.
I really don't think there's a difference between brands, or a difference worth driving additionally for. The entrance and egress of the gas station are the most important to me!
I use Techron on in all cars. One bottle a year or so. Never had an injector or fuel issue in 25+ years using it. Could be wasted money, but Costco darn near gives it away.
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Anyone can get beat on a tank of gas at some point(s) in their life.
I really don't think there's a difference between brands, or a difference worth driving additionally for. The entrance and egress of the gas station are the most important to me!
I use Techron on in all cars. One bottle a year or so. Never had an injector or fuel issue in 25+ years using it. Could be wasted money, but Costco darn near gives it away.
I really don't think there's a difference between brands, or a difference worth driving additionally for. The entrance and egress of the gas station are the most important to me!
I use Techron on in all cars. One bottle a year or so. Never had an injector or fuel issue in 25+ years using it. Could be wasted money, but Costco darn near gives it away.
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