Front coil springs advice
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Front coil springs advice
Hi guys,
due to a MOT advisory about worn front bottom wishbone ball joints and the fact that car sits about 1 1/4 inches too low at the front, inspired by this forum, I have started to rebuild the front suspension. The original shock mounts are still intact and are almost the same thickness as the new ones. There is no way just changing these with all the bushes and ball joints will restore the ride height.
Obviously the springs must be weak and sagging but the correct new ones (JLM 20689) are silly money, about £440 the pair ! I have seen that the R performance springs are almost half this price, do you think I can fit these to restore ride height?
Has any body used these as a suitable replacement and I wonder if any one has measured their uncompressed spring height so I can compare them with my original springs ?
Many thanks.
due to a MOT advisory about worn front bottom wishbone ball joints and the fact that car sits about 1 1/4 inches too low at the front, inspired by this forum, I have started to rebuild the front suspension. The original shock mounts are still intact and are almost the same thickness as the new ones. There is no way just changing these with all the bushes and ball joints will restore the ride height.
Obviously the springs must be weak and sagging but the correct new ones (JLM 20689) are silly money, about £440 the pair ! I have seen that the R performance springs are almost half this price, do you think I can fit these to restore ride height?
Has any body used these as a suitable replacement and I wonder if any one has measured their uncompressed spring height so I can compare them with my original springs ?
Many thanks.
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my 03 xk8 was that much low and then some. I replaced upper/lower mounts, springs and shocks then I was back to fact spec. I would replace those uppers while you have it apart. They may look ok now but there are not much more for this life, trust all of us here that tell you to replace them.
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Johnken, I'm in the same situation and all about $210/pair. Where did you find them? I'd also prefer the stock specs but will consider the slightly lowered if that's all I can get. Incidentally, Rock Auto no longer list springs.
Also, I found a guy on the web in the UK, DCR Auto Parts, that claims to have the goods for around $190 a pair at the prevailing exchange rate BUT he has yet to respond to my query. Anyone have experience with these or any other spring leads?
I have a 02 XK8 Coupe with non-adaptive suspension. Some places make a distinction between coupe and conv. springs but don't believe the spring rates would be different enough to preclude interchangeability....
Best, Al
Also, I found a guy on the web in the UK, DCR Auto Parts, that claims to have the goods for around $190 a pair at the prevailing exchange rate BUT he has yet to respond to my query. Anyone have experience with these or any other spring leads?
I have a 02 XK8 Coupe with non-adaptive suspension. Some places make a distinction between coupe and conv. springs but don't believe the spring rates would be different enough to preclude interchangeability....
Best, Al
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Rockauto used to list Springs, Balljoints, multiple bushing choices, etc, and now they have almost nothing.
The H&R's are perfect in front, but in back they are a little low. I'm going to replace my nearly worn thru lower spring perch rubbers to get back 1/4"-3/8" or so.
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DandyAndy (04-27-2016)
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Hi Tr8bofin,
In regard to springs, there are several different part numbers depending on coupe, convertible, adaptive damping, R performance etc. When you compare them side by side there is quite a difference in regard to uncompressed length and also the amount of coils. This seems strange as according to JTIS, the ride height of all cars are virtually the same?
I have just bought a pair of remanufactured front springs from DCR Auto Parts but I think the prices on his website are out of date as I paid £186 (UK Pounds or about $270 US Dollars) - still a huge saving compared to Jaguar, SNG Barratt etc). They are approx. 1/2 CM longer than new correct part number springs with slightly less coils. Just out of interest, my old springs were about 2 CM lower than new ones. He claims he has fitted the remanufactured springs to his car with no problems
DCR Auto Parts does not currently allow internet sales, you have to ring him in person or email him to discuss what you want but I found him very helpful including sending me pictures of different springs and their uncompressed heights so I could compare.
I am just in the process of refitting the front suspension back together and will update you on what I find when finished.
In regard to springs, there are several different part numbers depending on coupe, convertible, adaptive damping, R performance etc. When you compare them side by side there is quite a difference in regard to uncompressed length and also the amount of coils. This seems strange as according to JTIS, the ride height of all cars are virtually the same?
I have just bought a pair of remanufactured front springs from DCR Auto Parts but I think the prices on his website are out of date as I paid £186 (UK Pounds or about $270 US Dollars) - still a huge saving compared to Jaguar, SNG Barratt etc). They are approx. 1/2 CM longer than new correct part number springs with slightly less coils. Just out of interest, my old springs were about 2 CM lower than new ones. He claims he has fitted the remanufactured springs to his car with no problems
DCR Auto Parts does not currently allow internet sales, you have to ring him in person or email him to discuss what you want but I found him very helpful including sending me pictures of different springs and their uncompressed heights so I could compare.
I am just in the process of refitting the front suspension back together and will update you on what I find when finished.
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Thanks Johnken. I checked with Gaudin but for everyone's info front springs for the coupe and conv. are currently on backorder. I didn't even ask if they expected a shipment soon as 'backorder' is often trade-speak for who knows when, if ever, we'll have them again.
I decided not to wait for DandyAndy's result and went ahead and ordered a set from DCR also for nearly $300 shipped. Not cheap but my coupe (I just purchased it) features front springs that are so collapsed I'm afraid to drive it. I'm advised from the Forum that the springs may be only part of the problem and I'm prepared to replace other items in the system. The springs however seem to be the current "long pole in the tent" insofar as replacement part availability is concerned. Frankly I'm perplexed that such a known failure item is so hard to come by on a vehicle whose build numbers ran to nearly 100K units, but hey....
I decided not to wait for DandyAndy's result and went ahead and ordered a set from DCR also for nearly $300 shipped. Not cheap but my coupe (I just purchased it) features front springs that are so collapsed I'm afraid to drive it. I'm advised from the Forum that the springs may be only part of the problem and I'm prepared to replace other items in the system. The springs however seem to be the current "long pole in the tent" insofar as replacement part availability is concerned. Frankly I'm perplexed that such a known failure item is so hard to come by on a vehicle whose build numbers ran to nearly 100K units, but hey....
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Did you see my previous post where i fitted adjustable lower spring seats to my stock shocks and springs? I can adjust the preload on each side to give the exact same ride height right to left. I can put the ride height high or low... I have mine set at 15 5/8" and it worked like a dream. I got the parts from A-1 racing products in Pa. The cost was about $110.00, i did the machine work myself. Do a search for "front shocks, w adj. purr-fect!"