RE: How much would this be worth?
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/22/2008 9:02:02 AM
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You sum up quite well  . That's one of the main reasons I was looking for a '93-94 XJ40 not earlier model years . My personal thought is that once you get in a Jaguar ,you always wanna have one in your garage
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/23/2008 11:51:10 AM
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DEmotion
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Yes, I understand that these cars may be 'cheap' to purchase, but its the collective costs that really make this car expensive. But hey, a true car enthusiast would gladly spend 3-4 times, may be more on top of the original price of the car, right?
Anyway, I had the chance of viewing this vehicle yesterday. The owner wasn't home but his children (18-20 years old) said that he's looking for around $800 CAD for it.
The door handles were in spectacular condition, I lifted all four and they all felt very solid and the spring mechanism that pulls them back were all very equal. I also had a look-see underneath the vehicle, no oil spots or anything under it, and the chassis and body were in excellent condition, except for a hole in the back of the car (behind where the license plate would be). I don't know how that hole got there, but it shouldn't be too hard to fix.
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/25/2008 5:31:15 PM
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DEmotion
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I visited the car again today. The owner still hasn't come
back (business trip out of the country). He will be arriving
tonight, so tomorrow would be an okay time to visit.
Anyway, the people who were there did tell me that the owner
is looking to get $800 for the car. Would you say that's
somewhat reasonable?
What comments do you recommend I make to lower that target
price?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 3/17/2008 12:10:33 PM
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Do yourself a favor and stay away from this one. What can I say to a newly minted enthusiast? I own a pretty good, mechanically sound 93 XJ40 and it recently required a relatively minor repair due to a failed transmission mount. Now understand that Jaguars are built so complexly by gnomes in a secret location so that a simple transmission mount requires about 16 pieces ie:numerous springs washers plates, Etc, and this small item atributed to a small slight vibration was over $1000.00 to repair. Add in a set of rear wheel and axel bearings at $600.00 and you're only starting to get the picture. These cars sell very low used for good reason, not that they're all bad, but they are very, very ( note here ) very expensive to maintain and keep running. Stay away from any engine work as these engines are build with the precission of a swiss watch and any even minor problems are huge dollars to fix. In the end you will spend thousands in small repairs and more in parts only to end up with a car that's worth at best a thousand dollars or so. If you must venture into things Jaguar, loook at the XJ40 in and around 1993 - 1994 when they were mostly reliable and trouble free although still darn expensive to run. The last years for the XJ 40 were the best. Get one that runs, and runs well.
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 4/7/2008 2:23:48 PM
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DEmotion
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Hey guys, just an update!
The guy says that the transmission is mint. Before it was taken off the road almost 3 years ago, it had been rebuilt by Jaguar (specific dealership or wherever, I'm not sure).
I know it does need some minor cosmetic work, the major thing being the engine itself (wait until you see the pics below!). I was going back to my grassroots about crazy engine swaps when I came back upon that "Volvette" video online. Its an old 80's Volvo 740 with a twin turbocharged LS1 engine from a Corvette, along with a 5-speed manual.
I then came to realize, wouldn't it be cheaper to just find a used, running smallblock V8 and just custom-fab a transmission plate to match onto the XJ6's transmission and just used an independent engine management unit?
You guys are likely going to say that this is some form of Jaguar bastardization, but IMO, in almost all ways, its cheaper and likely to be more reliable...
Let me hear your opinion on this.
As for the car, took some pics with my camera phone. They're pretty good for camera phone pics. The lowest price I could barter the car was at $700.
Anyway, here are the pics:
I have no idea about the circle with the cross thing... If anyone knows anything, please share
Don't ask how that hole got there... I have absolutely no idea...
Drivers' side hood doesn't latch down like the passengers' side. Gas struts in excellent condition though
Front door closes perfectly. I accidentally left it open for the pic
The hole again...
EDIT: Forgot to post about the 'real' nightmare:
New timing chain is included, the distributor is there too. Only thing I see there is how long the car has been sitting w/o the valve cover, and how long its been like that without any sparkplugs in the plug socket... Engine needs a complete overhaul, or for a cheaper alternative ;) fabricate mounts and a transmission mating plate and stick in a small-block V8 and run an independent engine management system... Valve cover is in the guy's garage, though.
< Message edited by DEmotion -- 4/7/2008 2:32:53 PM >
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 4/8/2008 10:49:45 AM
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ken@britishparts.com
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Wow! That's a project!
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 4/8/2008 12:13:18 PM
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DEmotion
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quote:
ORIGINAL: ken@britishparts.com
Wow! That's a project!
I agree! The general body and chassis itself is in great condition except for those rusted areas. Its super-solid!
I did get a few replies from the folks at Jag-Lovers, all of the users who replied to the thread (about 5-6) all said that it wasn't worth $700. Its apparently got terminal rust cancer... The frame under the bonnet is completely solid, barely any rust whatsoever.
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