How much would this be worth?
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How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 2:03:18 PM
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DEmotion
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Greetings,
I recently stumbled upon this little gem quite close to me. Same town as me, and within a 10km radius from where I live.
A recent seller has posted a 1990 XJ6 as a "for parts or project" vehicle. I don't know the displacement of the engine other than its a six cylinder.
Its maroon in color, and needs a valve job from what the seller is saying.
I'd like to know what's involved in doing a valve job on a car like this. Is it... Similar to most cars? I say this because I was helping a friend (the guy who introduced me to Jags) work on his '85 XJ12 Vanden Plas, and noticed that it had inboard rear-brakes.
This car doesn't have man defects other than unpolished/cracking (needs replacing) chrome plated bits, as well as a flat tire (don't know how long its been sitting). I would assume that the car still runs, just burns a ton of oil... Oh, and does this thing have inboard rear brakes?
How much do you think this car is worth? I'm interested in it since I'm going to college this summer and I wouldn't mind showing up VIP in a Jag... But seriously, I'm taking a course on automotive service tech. and wanted something I can work on and learn with while off school campus, and this looks like something fun to work on. I've also got local contacts who own XJs and other nice 80's Jags, so I know where I can find somewhat discounted parts, but I wanted your opinion from this.
How much do you think the car is worth? (Canadian dollars)
Here are the pictures I've got:
Thanks in advance for your replies.
< Message edited by DEmotion -- 2/20/2008 2:05:17 PM >
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 2:10:13 PM
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ken@britishparts.com
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You won't make money on it, so don't look at as an investment. Not running, I would make $1000 my very highest end. I really wouldn't want to pay even half that. Lot's of unknowns that could cost you big down the line. Remember, it's the seller's problem. If you buy it, they are your problems. At this point you know nothing about tranny, brakes, suspension problems, a/c, electrical, etc. It's a big risk.
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 4:21:44 PM
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DEmotion
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Yes, I understand that I won't make any money from it, instead, somewhat lose money, haha. I would agree with you, $1000 would probably be the highest I would go. From what I've read and the troubles a friend of mine has had, they're not inexpensive in the long-run. But its the passion you have for sticking with your car rather than selling it for one that 'works' is what makes us car enthusiasts, right?
I've sent the owner a message, and will probably visit there tomorrow (only 3-5 minutes away from my school) to check out the car, see if theres any leaks and whatnot and ask the owner to pop the hood, or may be even allow me (if it runs) to give it a test drive around the block. I've just got some insight from a member from another Jag forum about valve jobs done DIY-style from used parts from a parts car or from parts from the wreckers. Shouldn't be too bad. I grew up around cars and have almost all the tools needed to do it in my garage. But its the rest of the car I'm worried about...
Well, we'll see what the owner says and I'll get back to you on what other stuff I notice from checking out the car.
Cheers
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 4:22:55 PM
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expensive car to learn on.. lol
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 4:36:34 PM
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i quess if all your looking for is just pulling in to class in a jag..
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 4:54:46 PM
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DEmotion
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quote:
ORIGINAL: jag_genius
i quess if all your looking for is just pulling in to class in a jag..
No, no... Thats not why I want a Jag... Originally, I wanted an '85 XJ12 Vanden Plas like the one my friend has. Unfortunately, those are rather rare in my area, so it was out of the picture. Just recently, this one came up so close to me, so I had to take a look at it. Mind you, its not my favorite bodystyle for Jags (I prefer the individual circle-lights of the series III's), but knowing that I AM going to a college where owning a vehicle with things to perform on it are somewhat valuable ways of learning and experiencing, why not start off with a somewhat unreliable car? I mean, right now I've got a 1999 Mazda Protegé, its running in tip-top shape. The car is absolutely flawless other than a few door dings (its color is 'Twilight Blue Mica', so its basically invisible at night time).
Why learn from a car that runs in tip-top shape and risk screwing it up when you can work on something already somewhat buggy and fix 'er up?
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/20/2008 4:59:34 PM
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makes sense
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/21/2008 6:37:56 AM
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ken@britishparts.com
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Sounds like you are in the right place. I thought you intended to just do a head job and ride off into the sunset. Sounds like you're looking at this realistically. Expensive items: ABS pumps, a/c problems, rear hub carrier, diff. Check all exterior door handles! The engine and trans are fairly solid on these. They did like to throw head gaskets, but that's usually not too bad. It would probably make a fun toy as a second car. Besides the items above, real expense will come in cosmetics. Interiors and chrome are expensive!
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RE: How much would this be worth? - 2/21/2008 1:18:46 PM
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DEmotion
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Oh, no... I'm not a 'do it cheap, get it running' type of guy. I work on the morals of "doing things right is never cheap, and doing things cheap is never right", therefore, I'm interested in the whole aspect of the car.
I received a message from a member of another forum telling me that the XJ40s were the first to be 'hot-dipped galvanized', promoting the utmost minimum of rust issues. So the body should be (and is) quite good. I'll safely assume that there may be some formation of rust on the rocker panels, but thats a normal issue in that area for most cars. So start off with something with a somewhat good condition body and chassis, and the mechanical and electrical would be most of the issues I'd have to work with (which is good, since its the field that I'll be studying). The gentleman also said that XJ40s had outboard rear brakes... A BIG joy for me, as it was somewhat difficult servicing the one on my friend's '85 XJ12 VDP.
Haven't received a message from the seller yet, but I've got an hour after lunchtime tomorrow and before classes, so I'll surely take a look at it.
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