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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 4/23/2008 1:41:29 PM   
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lol....let us know. This is known as the shotgun method.

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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 4/23/2008 1:58:11 PM   
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I just ordered ALL the parts.  This is known as the "Buy it now... You'll probably need it later; comprehensive (Cover All the Bases)" procurement method.  

But I will replace these items in logical stages; and report back on their success in eliminating the dreaded wheel shimmy. 

What bothers me is the shake is pretty obvious.  It's not dramatic.  But it's there, and pretty much a constant.  Yet except for the minimal amount of inner tie rod slop; there is no evidence of freeplay in any of the diagnostic procedures I have undertaken.  I am replacing parts now, on the theory that the shake occurs only while driving under loaded suspension conditions. 

This is called the OCD method.  gordo


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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 4/23/2008 2:13:26 PM   
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Just out of curiousity, what kind of tires do you have? I had a guy with a 98 XK.....had a shimmy that really only he could feel. He had brand new tires, Dunlops of some sort, and we balanced them a couple times. Then we put on michelin pilots. Not the aggressive ones. The shimmy went away, but still slight nibble. Ended up he needed wheel bearing. There was no play in it. No noise. He went 300 mile trip and came back and there was a lot of play in the wheel bearing then. Replaced it and is perfect. 

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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 4/23/2008 2:53:35 PM   
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I have four (4) brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 245x50 x17” that were balanced on a Hunter Roadforce GSP 9700 balancer.  One of the tires was out-of round and replaced by TireRack.  So they are all within the Hunter spec limits (less than 19lbs) and balanced out to zero.
 
My symptoms are a little more obvious.  I think anyone driving the car would be able to detect the shimmy.  However, the wheel bearings are on my list of suspects.  Since they show no outward signs of freeplay; I'll replace these next two (2) groups of items first.  Then they are next.
 

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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 5/6/2008 5:43:19 PM   
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Updating this thread.  As it turned out, the eBay Store selling the inner tie rod socket was out of stock.  Just as well, because after I pulled back the rubber tie rod boot, I could see that the socket was OK.  The freeplay is in the rack itself.  Not bad, but about 6-7mm on driver's side and 3-4mm on passenger's side.  I think this is within the acceptable limits of normal freeplay, and not the cause of my shimmy. 

So I replaced the upper ball joint and the front lower control arm bushing. The replacement of these parts completes the front suspension rebuild all the bushings and ball joints are new OEM.  The only significant component not replaced is the wheel bearing, which is easy to diagnose and shows no signs of failure.

At this juncture, I am moving to the shocks.  The right front seems to have lost some damper which would account for a bouncy judder over washboard roads.  Otherwise ride is smooth.  Most average drivers would find the ride acceptable, but I can feel the twitchyness in situations where the platform should be more stable.  The quest continues.  gordo

I am looking at replacing these units in another thread. 

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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 5/6/2008 5:54:39 PM   
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have done lots up here in canada ..  for vibe

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RE: Tie rod INNER ball joints replacement? - 5/8/2008 10:47:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jag_genius

have done lots up here in canada ..  for vibe


What have you done lots of?  Inner Tie Rods? or Shocks? 

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