K&N airfilters
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And sucking in oil that the cotton gauze is soaked it. One of the best rackets. Why dint we think of that. Especially since all air filters were once K&N style, we went to more expensive paper to avoid the problems created by oiled cotton.
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I consider K&N/BMC filters a one time investment in airfilters with probably just a 3-5hp increase. Perhaps a few more than that on a tuned vehicle (Velocity AP tune and pulley currently being installed)To clarify: these are the replacement panel filters that fit in the stock airboxes, not a pod filter kit.
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When I shop for a used road car (track car is different), if I open the hood and see K&N I walk away. Seeing one tells me that owner is a) not knowledgeable about cars b) was modding the car. a+ b is dangerous combination, and makes one wonder what else is there. Plus, who knows if the filter was ever re-oiled after it was installed, so it is likely the car was run effectively without filter.
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I know you won't be shopping here, but you can stop for a beer anytime and see the Doctor of Motors on my garage wall, anytime.
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One might counter that on a vehicle intended specifically for hard use, yet one that is probably owned by someone with more than average knowledge of proper maintenance, oiled cotton filters DO offer some performance advantage.Remember the engine problems with the previous generation GT3, Porsche is therefore not likely to stake its reputation on a questionable intake system if the gains were negligible.
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One might counter that on a vehicle intended specifically for hard use, yet one that is probably owned by someone with more than average knowledge of proper maintenance, oiled cotton filters DO offer some performance advantage.Remember the engine problems with the previous generation GT3, Porsche is therefore not likely to stake its reputation on a questionable intake system if the gains were negligible.
I would not put much weight on following what Porsche does. They are merely capitalizing on a public perception that was formed long time ago when they were ahead. Today no designer in his right mind would put an engine over or behind the rear axle- its the worst thing to do on many levels.
Yes a less restrictive filter would have made sense on a car which will need to have its engine rebuilt long before any wear from dirt becomes a problem. I.e. a race car.
With more Direct Injected cars on the road putting out incredibly aggressive and unfilterable by cotton, carbon nano dust, one is really gambling with the odds against them. Bear in mind, a new type of exhaust filtration law had to be passed to keep this new particle at bay.
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SinF (12-25-2017)
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The cost of a dyno that could resolve such a small change in HP is beyond most , unless you want to include NASA. All K&N say is an increase of around 1 -4HP and are not vehicle specific, so therefore have not tested their own product. The generic increase is what you would get from changing a standard paper filter at the end of its life anyway. Snakeoil
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NBCat (12-25-2017)
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Best is 1st to measure your vacuum in the intake, that will tell if you can make improvements, on the supercharged cars any vacuum is costing power. You could assume that due to size restrictions and noise reduction that there is some power gain on the table stock levels, certainly more so once you tune your engine. If you keep your car stock then it may not be worth it (pending of course the vacuum readings). I have been only using K&N on mine for more then 450.000km, wouldn't want any other.
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