Dealer overfilled oil...and more
#21
Oil Overfill
Okay, so the noob isn't paying attention to how this forum works. I scrolled to the bottom of the page and responded to this thread on a completely different one.
I had the same oil overfill issue with my first service. 2017 R AWD and I have to drive more than an hour to my nearest dealer. The service manager assures me they didn't overfill the oil even though the car says they did. He even provided me a copy of the service manual that calls for 8.15L in all V8 S/C 5.0L AWD applications. Of course he also told me they only put 8 quarts in and then told me the car has to be absolutely level for the oil indicator to read properly. In any case he assures me the car is safe to drive, but they would be happy to take some oil out if it would make me feel better. Odd that there should be such a large difference between the service manual and the owner's handbook. I plan to keep that correspondence safe.
I had the same oil overfill issue with my first service. 2017 R AWD and I have to drive more than an hour to my nearest dealer. The service manager assures me they didn't overfill the oil even though the car says they did. He even provided me a copy of the service manual that calls for 8.15L in all V8 S/C 5.0L AWD applications. Of course he also told me they only put 8 quarts in and then told me the car has to be absolutely level for the oil indicator to read properly. In any case he assures me the car is safe to drive, but they would be happy to take some oil out if it would make me feel better. Odd that there should be such a large difference between the service manual and the owner's handbook. I plan to keep that correspondence safe.
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Not so. My dealer fitted my F-Type with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires for a price very competitive with the tire shop quotes and more recently provided OEM rubber floor mats for the F-Type at a price significantly lower than I could find on eBay...there are indeed many times when the dealer is not the most economical choice but there are also frequent exceptions...and a relationship with your dealer is worth supporting.
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Okay, so the noob isn't paying attention to how this forum works. I scrolled to the bottom of the page and responded to this thread on a completely different one.
I had the same oil overfill issue with my first service. 2017 R AWD and I have to drive more than an hour to my nearest dealer. The service manager assures me they didn't overfill the oil even though the car says they did. He even provided me a copy of the service manual that calls for 8.15L in all V8 S/C 5.0L AWD applications. Of course he also told me they only put 8 quarts in and then told me the car has to be absolutely level for the oil indicator to read properly. In any case he assures me the car is safe to drive, but they would be happy to take some oil out if it would make me feel better. Odd that there should be such a large difference between the service manual and the owner's handbook. I plan to keep that correspondence safe.
I had the same oil overfill issue with my first service. 2017 R AWD and I have to drive more than an hour to my nearest dealer. The service manager assures me they didn't overfill the oil even though the car says they did. He even provided me a copy of the service manual that calls for 8.15L in all V8 S/C 5.0L AWD applications. Of course he also told me they only put 8 quarts in and then told me the car has to be absolutely level for the oil indicator to read properly. In any case he assures me the car is safe to drive, but they would be happy to take some oil out if it would make me feel better. Odd that there should be such a large difference between the service manual and the owner's handbook. I plan to keep that correspondence safe.
I don't understand the simple lack of pride in work. When I do my own oil changes, I only use the recommended figure as a guideline. I'd fill it up most of the way, then turn the car on, let it warm up, then let is settle and check, adding oil until it's at the correct level. It sound like what many of these dealers do is hook up a hose to a drum of oil, then pump out a predetermined amount of oil and send you on your way.
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This was covered somewhere else, but the service manual was wrong. I believe it has since been corrected, but 8 liters is way too much...by about 1.25 liters. I'd have them remove 2 liters, then add some back in until it's right.
I don't understand the simple lack of pride in work. When I do my own oil changes, I only use the recommended figure as a guideline. I'd fill it up most of the way, then turn the car on, let it warm up, then let is settle and check, adding oil until it's at the correct level. It sound like what many of these dealers do is hook up a hose to a drum of oil, then pump out a predetermined amount of oil and send you on your way.
I don't understand the simple lack of pride in work. When I do my own oil changes, I only use the recommended figure as a guideline. I'd fill it up most of the way, then turn the car on, let it warm up, then let is settle and check, adding oil until it's at the correct level. It sound like what many of these dealers do is hook up a hose to a drum of oil, then pump out a predetermined amount of oil and send you on your way.
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The difference is between the RWD and the AWD regardless of which engine.
#30
Not so. My dealer fitted my F-Type with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires for a price very competitive with the tire shop quotes and more recently provided OEM rubber floor mats for the F-Type at a price significantly lower than I could find on eBay...there are indeed many times when the dealer is not the most economical choice but there are also frequent exceptions...and a relationship with your dealer is worth supporting.
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As I understand it. Too much oil effectively turns your crank into a Ktichen Aide mixer. The oil gets whipped up and not longer goes cleanly through the lines.
#34
Overfilled condition happened to me a while ago as well.
#35
That is a very depressing indictment of current automobile technicians. I was 13 years old when I began working in garages and changing oil and filters was one of my primary tasks. We had manuals that listed the capacities for every vehicle we serviced and I don't recall one single overfill in all the years I was involved. Forgetting to replace the drain plug, yes; but that became very apparent before the car left the service bay.
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I had the same oil overfill issue with my first service. 2017 R AWD and I have to drive more than an hour to my nearest dealer. The service manager assures me they didn't overfill the oil even though the car says they did. He even provided me a copy of the service manual that calls for 8.15L in all V8 S/C 5.0L AWD applications. Of course he also told me they only put 8 quarts in and then told me the car has to be absolutely level for the oil indicator to read properly. In any case he assures me the car is safe to drive, but they would be happy to take some oil out if it would make me feel better. Odd that there should be such a large difference between the service manual and the owner's handbook. I plan to keep that correspondence safe.
And how can an engine that takes 9.4 quarts indicate overfilled with 8? Suspicious Cat is still suspicious.
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I feel your pain SVR, San Jose is closest to me too but not touching that place after the stories I have heard. Took mine all the way up to Marin for service #1 and they overfilled too (along with forgetting about it for a week...) Mine is a V6 RWD, so no one is exempt. Bought it at Livermore so might take it there next time...
That being said, the Service staff at Livermore is wonderful. The sales staff seems to be quite reserved. Hint. Hint.
Maybe I'll try Cole one of these days.
#39
I measure the oil level with the car, first. Next I pump out the oil and read the amount removed. That's how much I put back in.
Never let the dealer, or anyone else, so much as touch your car. The only exception is if you have to get help, or you've determined what is wrong is covered, but try to diagnose the car yourself first. Oil is too important and too easy to let the dealer touch the car, even if covered. A smart buyer will prefer your personal records with a receipt for proper oil and a quick photo, than a mindless dealer invoice for some min cost warranty oil change.
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