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The disaster continues on the F-Type... BUSTED CHAIN FOR OIL PUMP

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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Borbor
Let’s not shoot the messenger. Poor guy. Could be anyone one of us next week. Of course he is disgruntled. I dare anyone else in his position not to be.
Right, it is a terrible tale….this is exactly why we need to hear the full story.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2023 | 08:04 PM
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Granted. I would not be a happy camper myself should this have happened to me.

However, I do not believe I would go on a tirade against all F-Types and lump sum them all into the category that he does.

I am not shooting the messenger. I am just looking for the ammo right now.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 09:15 AM
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The OP mentioned in his/her previous thread that the car was purchased from FL. We did have a member on here a few years back that moved onto a Supra, but had a 2016 V6S that had several accidents, and engine replacement, and other problems. This person was in FL. I'm curious if this is the same car.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 11:55 AM
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UPDATE:

Engine oil pan was finally pulled. Just as feared there are a lot of metal shavings and the oil looks like metallic paint.

Could be put back together and technically run but the engine will likely fully grenade in who knows how long.

Used engine could be installed with 10k miles on it for 14k..... New engine they are looking into the prices of it.

Still waiting for further updates.. Only benefit of a new engine is that there might be a warranty on the engine. If I sold the car I'll likely only get a fraction of what it is worth out of it.

Terrible spot, people on here giving me **** but you are also not in the position I am in and in need of a new engine.

I thought everything was great on these cars till they weren't. The car was serviced and taken care of in regards to all maintenance and preventative maintenance.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 12:21 PM
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Thanks for reporting; I am sure that we all understand both your disappointment and your frustration.

But the story of this engine is so unusual (in fact, unique) that it would be REALLY helpful if we knew the details of the history.

You have stated that the car was “serviced and taken care of” regarding maintenance and preventative service - I assume that this refers to the period of your ownership of the car - …but do you feel that you can give us details? For example, an idea of how often the oil was changed, and if was it done using oil meeting the Jaguar/Land Rover specification? And what sort of “preventative” maintenance was done? And do you have the history of the car BEFORE you acquired it (because that might be the most significant bit of history).

None of this is a criticism; it is rather an attempt to find out WHY the engine failed so catastrophically so that the rest of us might avoid the situation you find yourself in.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/13403325859...h#readMoreDesc

what do you think of this engine?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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Just from their description. It sounds like they have gone above, and beyond the standard rebuild practices A+. If you can take them at their word? It's obvious they are new to Ebay as they have virtually no rating, or feedback that I could find. And being as they are in California, I would start with the better Business Bureau, or Chamber of Commerce, where they are, and see what turns up? Then do a Google search on them, and see if they have good, or bad reputation. At least you'll have some Idea of what you're getting. A Used engine is a Used engine, you have no idea how it was treated.. A rebuilt engine that is done correctly, should be nearly as good, if not better then the original. Just my thoughts as you're the guy with the money. LOL! Good Luck.

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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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With the caveat that I don't know a whole lot about replacement engines, it sounds promising. I'm sure you saw you have to give them your old engine within 30 days or there's a $3500 core charge.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 02:51 PM
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assuming you're doing some research on that company...if not, here's some quick things I pulled up based on a quick google search on their phone number. no idea if good or bad, that's for you to decide.

their own site: https://text-a-part-auto-jaguar.business.site/?m=true/

https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/santa-clar...e-1216-1278229
https://www.yelp.com/biz/tapa-jaguar...e-sun-valley-4 (only one review)
https://www.loc8nearme.com/californi...7975/comments/ (this and the one below pull reviews from google)
https://www.merchantcircle.com/tapa-...yon-country-ca

no other reviews on other sites that I could find. this is either good or bad depending on how you look at...good in that not many motors need to be fully rebuilt or customers had good experiences that don't require review or had nothing to complain about...bad in that they don't do many rebuilds.

good luck. I'd also be interested to hear about what you found out about the car prior to you purchasing it. do you have it's history?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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$13,000 with a 50mm overbore and bigger pistons.. and yes you are correct 3500 core charge they pay for return core shipping.

Little sketchy placing such a big credit card order but I think this is my only good and true option.

Getting aluminum cooling pipes and supercharger snout core as well.


 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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Car fax from the car...

Man I really hope I don't get screwed over on this purchase of the engine now.. So tempting tho and I still think it might be my best option.

Giving credit card details is always sketchy af. Least the bank can reimburse if fraud or anything.







 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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For that kind of money, you might ask if you can visit them in CA, to make sure you're comfortable.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 05:58 PM
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Re manned engine straight from Jaguar is $9650 I was quoted.

Now I'm tempted to do that but already placed the order for the 13k engine.

But the 13k engine might still be better with the internals. Not sure what's worth anymore.

 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 07:58 PM
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I can't imagine the strain you are going through right now... a car you thought was the best thing yet turns out to have serious issues. Then trying to buy a replacement engine and not get taken. I read through all the Carfax entries and other than an electrical issue, it appears that the car was serviced regularly. The second owner put regular miles on it, about 1000/month? And the car was sold as Certified Pre owned? I probably would have bought this car too. I thought I did my due diligence when I bought my 2017, but I missed the clutch issue. However the selling dealer had installed the correct 4th gen unit. 10k miles later, still good. I can only think this incident is just a horrible misfortune and I send my very best wishes for a good outcome. Thank you for sharing this very painful and personal story, we have all learned from it.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2023 | 09:29 PM
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OP: It stinks that you are experiencing this. These Jags are awesome when they run, but are hell to your wallet when they act up. I'm on my third f-type now, and still love the platform, but I also know that at any moment, things can go bad fast and I can be out thousands of dollars in repairs. Your car looked to be well serviced, so it appears to be the (bad) luck of the draw. Sometimes people cry that Jaguar gets an unfair reputation for being unreliable, but where there's smokes, there's usually fire.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 07:58 AM
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Sorry for your problems but all the questions were raised because we just don't see this failure at all. It's extremely rare and as I said I am very deep into Jaguars and have seen many destroyed engines and not one has ever broken the oil pump drive chain? They are all cooling related that warp heads and blocks and spun rod/main bearings from running the engine low on oil.

But thanks for reporting Jaguar now offers a reman engine! We had been told before that Jaguar under warranty replaces the entire engine and did not offer any rebuilt stuff only brand new. Plus the price seems very competitive with what you have found in the after market too.

Thanks for posting back and I hope to hear you do get it all back together!
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Valerie Stabenow
I can't imagine the strain you are going through right now... a car you thought was the best thing yet turns out to have serious issues. Then trying to buy a replacement engine and not get taken. I read through all the Carfax entries and other than an electrical issue, it appears that the car was serviced regularly. The second owner put regular miles on it, about 1000/month? And the car was sold as Certified Pre owned? I probably would have bought this car too. I thought I did my due diligence when I bought my 2017, but I missed the clutch issue. However the selling dealer had installed the correct 4th gen unit. 10k miles later, still good. I can only think this incident is just a horrible misfortune and I send my very best wishes for a good outcome. Thank you for sharing this very painful and personal story, we have all learned from it.
Agree...very weird to have timing go out. Maybe fueling issues causes a chain of events...in the end: boom. just very weird and very bad luck.

Hopefully this car has used up all of its bad luck now...so you should hopefully only have postives....
 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 03:19 PM
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Good luck OP. Crappy situation for sure. Does seem rather isolated on the whole, but this certainly doesn't help you in the least. I wish you well. Like others have said, hopefully you come out on the other side of this and things will be good for ya.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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Compared to Porsche, these cars are solid..

Public idea: The Porsche GT3 engine is bombproof.

Fact: Cars "start" at 150k used....

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...eplaced-2.html

Translated - 50k + engine replacement cost - no spares out there as Porsche keeps the engines...dealer only..... gotta pay to play mentality.....not discussed too loudly so as to not affect resale.

F type, save the OP's issues, is pretty cheap. If an engine is 10k...that is a lot of money but not 50k. I hope the OP gets on the road and has good fortune only, but I post this to put everyone in context. Even the generic engines on prosches are 30k...50k is the shortblock IF you can get it for the gt3...I suspect it could be 75k installed.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 12:03 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys.

I'm basically forced to keep the car. Trying to resell at this point is dumb, and I might be buying another car that has other issues.

Engine costed me $13,000 shipped. I got the one I posted above that has some beefed up internals. I did find out that with a employee discount you can get a remanned engine from Jaguar for $9200...... While this was a lot cheaper you would think it would make sense to get an engine that has better internals right off the get go.

Labor to put everything back together is going to be $5,000. I will be in for a minimum of $18,000 possibly up to $20,000 if anything else comes up.

Engine is coming from California to Wisconsin and hopefully the shop I have my car at will be able to get it all put back together by next week. I would imagine it might be longer than that though.

I will be charged a $2500 core charge if I don't return the engine, but couldn't I turn the engine in elsewhere and get more than $2500 you think??

 
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