As a reference point for the discussion of Petrol availability , a number of progressive states in the U.S. have issued policy goals of achieving 15% electric vehicle penetration by 2027. Even if the increase in market penetration doubles every 9 years thereafter, (45% in 2036, 100% by 2045), the demise of ICEs on the road will coincide with mine.

 

People don't like bother. So when electric cars get a proper range, can be charged in 5 minutes and even so cost a fraction since maintenance is restricted to tires and
brake pads every 25000 miles, they wont mourn the loss of garage bills and dealing with not so reputable dealers. The start can be slow, but if the momentum picks up,
it can be over & done with ICE's withing 10 years al together.

 

Hi, Dan,

I was reding some of the comments and saw people picking on the P300. I am sorry that some people do that. I have no experience with the P300. I am sure it's a fun car.

I have a lowly V8 S. The weakest of the V8 powered F-Types, When I got it in 2015 it the post powerful since the R Coupe wasn't out. It would not have made a difference since I wanted a convertible.

What I want to mention is that I have never used the radio / music system in my car whenever the top is down. I always drive in dynamic mode and the sound is intoxicating even on idle. I bought this car for the sound of the engine. I was thinking of getting a Porsche 911 S and even though the Porsche was faster I picked the F-Type due to the noise. I also enjoy the inherent instability of my RWD version. It's very easy to lose traction and hence I do have to pay attention when driving. I know that the AWD is faster. My only wish is that the V8 came in a manual. I know most people would not agree with me and will think that I am justifying my purchase - but I do like the fact that it is a flawed car in some, or perhaps, many ways,

 

I am big proponent of straight 6 configuration as it is mechanically simpler for both valve train and timing chain run and has advantage of having clear one-side-only exhaust making heat management simpler. However, I lament the likely loss of supercharger.

 

Someone should design a straight-8 or better yet a straight-9!

 

Then they could re-design a new Cheetah to stuff it into...

 

........... !!!!!!

I'm speechless with awe...

 

Or the Jupiter 8! I think Gene Winfield is still alive.

EDIT: Wikipedia says yes, and reminds me the car was really called the Reactor.

 

Seriously, I reckon you could be on to something there!
Well at least the straight 8.
The Ingenium engines (both diesel and petrol versions) are modular, with each cylinder being 500 cc.
A 4 litre straight 8 twin turbo petrol would not be all that hard to design and build and they should be able to shoe horn it into the F-Type engine bay.
It could easily be tuned for 700 hp and 800 Nm.
Problem is the economy of scale, the F-Type (and it's maybe/possible/who knows successor) just doesn't sell in big enough numbers to warrant the R&D so a straight 8 would need to be also available on other JLR products such as the Range Rover, but it could be a squeeze to fit. And then we have all the malarkey about fuel economy and "emissions" mitigating against larger and more powerful engines, although I did read recently that the proposed CAFE uplift from 37 mpg to 53 mpg by 2025 (don't quote me on the exact figures or year!) has be shelved for the moment, so there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I think the SOUND of a 'straight-8' does not comes into the same 'quality' as that from a V8. What remains is the need of power & torque. For that, and for economy of scale, fuel, weight etc etc,
I think they will not go further then an I6, with hybrid boost, and roots and/or exhaust turbo.. If you add that all up [ but it doesnt add up in reality, not all], it can easily come to 450HP for the I6 only.
Effectively that would be 1.5x I4 enginium from the P300. Then with two electric motors [ one for each front wheels ] and a 5 to 20 KWh battery pack in the rear, they can achieve 45/55 weight
distribution, 30%/70% power distribution and an enormous torque of 600Nm from the I6 only. The only thing missing would be the V8 sound. But it would do average fuel consumption of near
25 km/liter and zero dust output. With the option to switch to full electric, you would not be cast out of city centres. You can also leave home without waking the neighbours up...

But as I've learned lately, none of that means anything to some forum members, if it comes without the 'tunes' ...

 

True...a car needs a soul to be great.

 

I would have never bought the F-Type without it's soul. The V6 S wasn't bad. I liked it's soundtrack. However I prefer the 4 exhaust tips on the V8. I also loved it's power.

The soundtrack of the V8 always makes me smile. Just like this:

 

Sorry to say this guys, but the 'permagrin' has already been claimed by the drivers of the LR3 , since 2004...

..it also comes with a V8..

 

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...e1&action=view

 

I get it!


Exactly!

 

I like the quad tips but the V8 sound was just slightly harsh to my ears for daily driving. Admittedly, the test drive I did was in a drophead, and I'm sure the salesman had put it in "loud" mode. Comparing V6 to V8 sounds called to mind a bugle versus a french horn (although I am utterly devoid of musical talent). I wish the V6 had another 1500 rpm on top though. That would be a wail that would echo down the canyons. Not quite the sound of the MV, which is more like stuffing banshees through a jet engine, but that's a whole 'nuther ball o' wax.

 

We don't have speed cameras every two miles, fixed cameras are generally in accident areas and around schools where they make sense and such areas are built up and tend to be 30mph limits, thus no one should be speeding.

On our national speed limit roads there is hardly any cameras, maybe the odd camera van but you can find their positions online and just take it easy in their usual parking spots.

I would I feel embarrassed I am driving an SVR, the other guy a KIA, nothing embarrassing about that and it means the KIA driver can get that rare opportunity to take a good look at the beauty of the SVR, because if I decide to put my foot down, KIA won't be keeping up.

We are surrounded by incredible national speed limit roads:



One of them, many of us drive such roads at incredible speeds of well over 200km/h, just don't caught.
Recently two lads drove the road above in the video and put their video on youtube, the only issue is they were reaching speeds of around 150mph and it was on video, as such the Police convicted them and they lost license for two years.
In short if they had never be so dumb to post up a video they would of been fine, silly lads.

UK is full of incredible national speed limit roads where we play and I get to drive several everyday in the SVR where it is truly incredible piece of kit, search EVO Triangle and NC500, some of the more famous UK roads where car enthusiast like to go for drives and trust me often the speed limit is tripled.

 

EDIT

 

I get it!

 

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