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Cambo 02-01-2019 12:59 AM

Custom PIDs for Torque App - oil temp, oil level, trans temp, and more
 
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If you have a 2010-onward Jag or Land Rover with the electronic oil level sensor, and are using Torque Pro App on Android, one of the members of our group has reverse engineered some useful PIDs so you can now see measurements on Torque of Engine Oil Level, Engine Oil Temperature, Transmission Fluid Temperature, E-Diff Fluid Temperature, and more.

Attached PDF file outlines the process for adding the custom PIDs to Torque Pro, you will need to download a .csv file, there is a link in the document to download the file.

This information/instruction is provided for free! Hope some people might find it helpful.

GGG 02-01-2019 02:21 AM

Cameron,

An excellent idea. I was intrigued when I read your mention of this on F-Type forum earlier in the week. Downloaded and will give it a go this weekend.

Graham

Cee Jay 02-02-2019 11:50 AM

Is the .cvs file just a formatted Excel spreadsheet that adds data to the App? I sort of expected something else.

CleverName 02-02-2019 05:33 PM

^ I hope so. I did a copy and paste to excel as Dropbox will not function without me allowing 3rd party cookies.

Sean W 02-02-2019 06:50 PM

https://torque-bhp.com/wiki/PIDs

How to add extended PIDs | TorqueBHP Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia

AlexJag 02-02-2019 08:41 PM

Nice work Cambo! Anything available for the 4.2?

clubairth1 02-04-2019 07:18 AM

Thanks much Cambo!
Any chance we can get a inch/psi version?
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GGG 02-04-2019 08:37 AM

Works perfectly:


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Any chance of actual tyre pressures from the TPMS with a future version ..........?

Graham

Cambo 02-06-2019 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by clubairth1 (Post 2023055)
Thanks much Cambo!
Any chance we can get a inch/psi version?

Here it is in imperial https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjzlwuzvx1...erial.csv?dl=0 hopefully this will work for you non-metric heathens :)


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2023090)
Works perfectly:

Any chance of actual tyre pressures from the TPMS with a future version ..........?

Graham

Sadly no, the way the TPMS module sends data in an X150 is not on HS-CAN, and even then it only broadcasts when a fault (bad sensor, deflation, etc) is present, so no live data.

CleverName 02-06-2019 08:53 PM

Thanks Cambo......
(And yes I hate being one of those non-metric heathens....sigh....)

GGG 02-07-2019 02:54 AM

I buy my fuel in litres but check consumption in MPG. On holiday I check the weather forecast in deg F but engine temperature in deg C. Tyre pressures have to be in PSI but torque only means anything to me in nM. This must make me a semi-metric imperialist. :icon_lol:

Graham

JagV8 02-07-2019 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 2024284)
Sadly no, the way the TPMS module sends data in an X150 is not on HS-CAN, and even then it only broadcasts when a fault (bad sensor, deflation, etc) is present, so no live data.

Can the sensors be read using some sort of (wireless?) box? I suppose they must be wireless of some kind... but what kind? How's the car reading them?

Cambo 02-07-2019 05:26 AM

In the X150 and X250 there is a separate TPMS module, which is wired up to the 4x initiators, and a single RF receiver that receives the signals from the 4x sensors.

It's basically a closed-loop standalone system which only broadcasts fault messages on MS-CAN to the instrument cluster, you don't hear from it unless something is wrong.

Other vehicles, like the F-Type, Discovery 4, Range Rovers, etc have the TPMS incorporated into the Body Control Module, and you could get live data from them, but not in the dumb system in the X150/X250.

GGG 02-07-2019 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by JagV8 (Post 2024385)
Can the sensors be read using some sort of (wireless?) box? I suppose they must be wireless of some kind... but what kind? How's the car reading them?

As I haven't had a TPMS warning on my XK, I've just tested to see how and when it triggers.

Front recommended tyre pressure is 33 psi. Gradually deflating the tyre triggered the warning at 26 psi. The TPMS on the XK genuinely is "dumb". I can tell by looking at a tyre it is seriously under-inflated long before it approaches 20% below recommended pressure.

Presumably the warning trigger point is manufacturer determined, hard coded and not mandated?

Graham

Cambo 02-07-2019 05:56 AM

Safe to say they spent the least amount of money possible to fulfill whatever the US/EU legislation was requiring.

JagV8 02-07-2019 06:34 AM

Thanks - but I was hoping as a work-around there might be a standalone box known to work that a car owner could buy from some suitable site.

clubairth1 02-10-2019 08:32 AM

Thanks again Cambo!!
Your a fountain of Jaguar information!

Any chance this can be added to the sticky's?
Shame to have to search for something so useful.
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Queen and Country 02-25-2019 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2023090)

Is that correct, 5.5 liters of oil?



GGG 02-25-2019 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 2032250)
Is that correct, 5.5 liters of oil?

The car was sitting on the ramp into my garage for the photo. Amazing the difference even a slight incline can make to the reading.

Graham

Tel 05-09-2019 02:40 PM

Excellent app, thanks for all the efforts to gain the pids for the extra info...

Question regrading the IAT2 reading - Mine is reading 60 deg C on initial startup, rising to 85C after a 5 minute idle!!!

Checked that the .CSV file was intact and all appears correct - Am I not ticking a box somewhere in the app or is the scaling gone to rats?


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