Genrad GDS3500 WDS Docking Station
#441
#442
#444
Hello folks,
had been out for a while.
But my daughter moved out now for studies, and everything is settled with that, so I can concentrate on the WDS again.
Last week I was searching for the power-Cable A-204 and I came across an interesting auction on ebay: One PTU with docking station an cables and one PTU with the B-280 only. I got into contact and bought it directly for a very reasonable price. They had been remains from a Ford dealer and were said to be in working order.
This weekend I got both of them working on Jaguar software (t'was a pain in the ***) and on 4GB CF-Cards. The Ford HDD is just 3GB, and that ran out of memory with the last CD43.
Next target is to weld together new batteries. I received the package with 2 extra battery packs, so I have plenty now to try on.
And now I am facing another problem - I have 2 sets of pin-point cables (red and black), but both C-201/202. Obviously for Jaguar I need C-248/249.
Now the question is, does anybody have a pin-scheme for the 248/249 ?
Another item that was mentioned to me by the mechanic was that the FORD WDS are throttled in performance by a jumper on the motherboard.
Did any-one of you come across that so far ?
Best regards
André
had been out for a while.
But my daughter moved out now for studies, and everything is settled with that, so I can concentrate on the WDS again.
Last week I was searching for the power-Cable A-204 and I came across an interesting auction on ebay: One PTU with docking station an cables and one PTU with the B-280 only. I got into contact and bought it directly for a very reasonable price. They had been remains from a Ford dealer and were said to be in working order.
This weekend I got both of them working on Jaguar software (t'was a pain in the ***) and on 4GB CF-Cards. The Ford HDD is just 3GB, and that ran out of memory with the last CD43.
Next target is to weld together new batteries. I received the package with 2 extra battery packs, so I have plenty now to try on.
And now I am facing another problem - I have 2 sets of pin-point cables (red and black), but both C-201/202. Obviously for Jaguar I need C-248/249.
Now the question is, does anybody have a pin-scheme for the 248/249 ?
Another item that was mentioned to me by the mechanic was that the FORD WDS are throttled in performance by a jumper on the motherboard.
Did any-one of you come across that so far ?
Best regards
André
#445
#446
Yes, nearly all of them are for FORD.
So sell my Jag and buy a Mustang ? No way
Today I upgraded the RAM of the two units and at least on the visible sides of the boards no Jumper was to be seen. Maybe that was a hoax someday.
But still I am in need of the C-248/249 or at least of the coding of the Pins.
For the C-201/202 the coding is:
201 - short circuit of pin 1 and 20 (1=upper leftm 20=lower right)
202 - short circuit of pin 2 and 20
I will be posting the diagrams anyway in some time.
Best regards
André
So sell my Jag and buy a Mustang ? No way
Today I upgraded the RAM of the two units and at least on the visible sides of the boards no Jumper was to be seen. Maybe that was a hoax someday.
But still I am in need of the C-248/249 or at least of the coding of the Pins.
For the C-201/202 the coding is:
201 - short circuit of pin 1 and 20 (1=upper leftm 20=lower right)
202 - short circuit of pin 2 and 20
I will be posting the diagrams anyway in some time.
Best regards
André
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#447
Now that I installed the newly purchased units with the RAM upgrade, I thought it could be a good idea to make a guide for the installation.
case 1:
You have an original configuration with hard disk and docking station. Here you can start directly with the installation in step 2.
case 2:
You changed the hard disk (either bigger disk or CF-card) or you upgraded the RAM.
Or additionally there is a double beep at the start of booting with a message of an invalid hibernation partition.
You will get this message if the RAM has changed or size/sectors of the hard disk are different from the saved configuration.
Step 1:
The disk has to be prepared.
Take a suitable adapter for the hard disk (IDE 44) or the CF-card.
If the partition table looks like this, there is something missing (here in Easus Partition Manager).
That's how it should look like with a correct configuration:
The partition "Other" with 165MB is the place where the hibernation file is stored.
In your partition program erase all partitions, so it looks like this:
(For the 4GB card it will be less, of course)
Now assemble the hard disk/CF-card in your PTU again.
Switch on the PTU and press "DEL" to enter the BIOS setup.
Should the BIOS still be locked enter password "dmwhjw".
I would suggest to never change that password. You may delete it however. That's what I did. "Change Supervisor Password" and fill in - nothing. If you take another password (that might suit you, this will be documented - nowhere).
Select the entry Auto-Detect Hard Disks.
All existing IDE devices (Hard-Disks/CD-ROM) will now be detected.
Leave the menu with ESC and save settings and exit.
Remark: This will not work with the 3GB disk and the 160MB RAM upgrade.
The installation will be successful but you will have to delete folders "Setup" / "Temp" and "Windows\Temp" and will have to deinstall some programs to gain some more space on the disk.
For the hibernation file it will still be not enough space. I did not try to re-partition with Easus however.
step 2:
Put the Jaguar-Ghost-CD into the CD-ROM drive and switch on the PTU.
Norton Ghost now starts and writes the image on to the hard disk. During this the disk is being partitioned. According to to the size of the disk the partition size varies proportionally.
This procedure lasts for about 7 minutes.
In the end HDPREPEZ.exe will create the partition for the hibernation file according to the installed RAM size.
You will see the following picture:
Take the Ghost-CD out of the CD_ROM drive and restart the PTU.
Now you should receive just one beep and see the AMI boot logo.
If it still beeps 2 times and the AMI logo does not appear, something went wrong and you will have to repeat step 1.
Then the Windows 98 boot logo will appear.
Now you can either put in the CD42a into the CD-ROM drive or use a PCMCIA-adapter with an additional CF-card you have put the setup-files on. This is very much faster.
Putting it in the drivers will be installed. Follow the pictures.
During that procedure the PC could hang for a couple of seconds, so please wait, until the mouse is responsive again.
After klicking on "Finish" the system hangs and restarts. Scandisk carries out a check. That is normal.
The system runs through into the WDS program.
Failure "Msdtcw" depends on the PCMCIA-card and can be closed.
Then you can carry out the screen calibration.
You can start the Explorer with "Windows" and "E".
Now start the "Setup.exe" in the directory "CD42a".
This installation lasts for about 15 minutes. Working with the CDs now take out CD42a and put in CD43.
Then there will be a reboot where some of the system files will be updated.
Using the PCMCIA-Card start the "Setup.exe" in the directory "CD43".
The installation lasts for about 2.5 hours and ends with a reboot. After that scandisk starts with a thorough scan.
Then the rest will be installed in Windows and the system will be rebooted again.
If your battery should be down you might receive error 2217. Just accept and accept again (I received it always twice).
Please notice that the PCMCIA-card has to be taken out while the PTU is running.
Otherwise you might get a bluescreen on next boot.
With this procedure I made my three units run with 4GB CF-cards, although also an installation of the JWDS on a Ford 3GB-HDD was sucessful (but without hibernation file - means 2 beeps at the start).
Best regards
André
case 1:
You have an original configuration with hard disk and docking station. Here you can start directly with the installation in step 2.
case 2:
You changed the hard disk (either bigger disk or CF-card) or you upgraded the RAM.
Or additionally there is a double beep at the start of booting with a message of an invalid hibernation partition.
You will get this message if the RAM has changed or size/sectors of the hard disk are different from the saved configuration.
Step 1:
The disk has to be prepared.
Take a suitable adapter for the hard disk (IDE 44) or the CF-card.
If the partition table looks like this, there is something missing (here in Easus Partition Manager).
That's how it should look like with a correct configuration:
The partition "Other" with 165MB is the place where the hibernation file is stored.
In your partition program erase all partitions, so it looks like this:
(For the 4GB card it will be less, of course)
Now assemble the hard disk/CF-card in your PTU again.
Switch on the PTU and press "DEL" to enter the BIOS setup.
Should the BIOS still be locked enter password "dmwhjw".
I would suggest to never change that password. You may delete it however. That's what I did. "Change Supervisor Password" and fill in - nothing. If you take another password (that might suit you, this will be documented - nowhere).
Select the entry Auto-Detect Hard Disks.
All existing IDE devices (Hard-Disks/CD-ROM) will now be detected.
Leave the menu with ESC and save settings and exit.
Remark: This will not work with the 3GB disk and the 160MB RAM upgrade.
The installation will be successful but you will have to delete folders "Setup" / "Temp" and "Windows\Temp" and will have to deinstall some programs to gain some more space on the disk.
For the hibernation file it will still be not enough space. I did not try to re-partition with Easus however.
step 2:
Put the Jaguar-Ghost-CD into the CD-ROM drive and switch on the PTU.
Norton Ghost now starts and writes the image on to the hard disk. During this the disk is being partitioned. According to to the size of the disk the partition size varies proportionally.
This procedure lasts for about 7 minutes.
In the end HDPREPEZ.exe will create the partition for the hibernation file according to the installed RAM size.
You will see the following picture:
Take the Ghost-CD out of the CD_ROM drive and restart the PTU.
Now you should receive just one beep and see the AMI boot logo.
If it still beeps 2 times and the AMI logo does not appear, something went wrong and you will have to repeat step 1.
Then the Windows 98 boot logo will appear.
Now you can either put in the CD42a into the CD-ROM drive or use a PCMCIA-adapter with an additional CF-card you have put the setup-files on. This is very much faster.
Putting it in the drivers will be installed. Follow the pictures.
During that procedure the PC could hang for a couple of seconds, so please wait, until the mouse is responsive again.
After klicking on "Finish" the system hangs and restarts. Scandisk carries out a check. That is normal.
The system runs through into the WDS program.
Failure "Msdtcw" depends on the PCMCIA-card and can be closed.
Then you can carry out the screen calibration.
You can start the Explorer with "Windows" and "E".
Now start the "Setup.exe" in the directory "CD42a".
This installation lasts for about 15 minutes. Working with the CDs now take out CD42a and put in CD43.
Then there will be a reboot where some of the system files will be updated.
Using the PCMCIA-Card start the "Setup.exe" in the directory "CD43".
The installation lasts for about 2.5 hours and ends with a reboot. After that scandisk starts with a thorough scan.
Then the rest will be installed in Windows and the system will be rebooted again.
If your battery should be down you might receive error 2217. Just accept and accept again (I received it always twice).
Please notice that the PCMCIA-card has to be taken out while the PTU is running.
Otherwise you might get a bluescreen on next boot.
With this procedure I made my three units run with 4GB CF-cards, although also an installation of the JWDS on a Ford 3GB-HDD was sucessful (but without hibernation file - means 2 beeps at the start).
Best regards
André
Last edited by asgarond; 01-22-2018 at 02:19 AM.
#448
And last but not least.
What might be interesting for you is the locations of
JWDS_SysCD2_Final.iso
WDS_CD42a.iso
JWDS_CD43_Final.iso
Best regards
André
What might be interesting for you is the locations of
JWDS_SysCD2_Final.iso
WDS_CD42a.iso
JWDS_CD43_Final.iso
Best regards
André
Last edited by asgarond; 01-23-2018 at 01:32 AM.
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#451
Dear André,
thank a lot for sharing your experience, installation instructions and finally also the disc images required to install the Jaguar software on the Genrad WDS 3500.
I recently cleaned up my garage and found a lot of stuff that i'm willing to contribute to the members of the forum. They are mainly related to Ford diagnostics, but nevertheless maybe useful for someone.
Feel free to contact me if you need anything shown in the pictures.
BTW: Is there any member of this forum able to provide a copy or disc image of the Aston Martin WDS discs? These are the only ones that i'm missing.
BR
Harry
thank a lot for sharing your experience, installation instructions and finally also the disc images required to install the Jaguar software on the Genrad WDS 3500.
I recently cleaned up my garage and found a lot of stuff that i'm willing to contribute to the members of the forum. They are mainly related to Ford diagnostics, but nevertheless maybe useful for someone.
Feel free to contact me if you need anything shown in the pictures.
BTW: Is there any member of this forum able to provide a copy or disc image of the Aston Martin WDS discs? These are the only ones that i'm missing.
BR
Harry
#452
Aston Martin software
I can help you with the Aston Martin software. For the DB9 you will need not only software, but also a special AM adapter. Please sent me a pm and I will be in contact. Yvo
Dear André,
thank a lot for sharing your experience, installation instructions and finally also the disc images required to install the Jaguar software on the Genrad WDS 3500.
I recently cleaned up my garage and found a lot of stuff that i'm willing to contribute to the members of the forum. They are mainly related to Ford diagnostics, but nevertheless maybe useful for someone.
Feel free to contact me if you need anything shown in the pictures.
BTW: Is there any member of this forum able to provide a copy or disc image of the Aston Martin WDS discs? These are the only ones that i'm missing.
BR
Harry
thank a lot for sharing your experience, installation instructions and finally also the disc images required to install the Jaguar software on the Genrad WDS 3500.
I recently cleaned up my garage and found a lot of stuff that i'm willing to contribute to the members of the forum. They are mainly related to Ford diagnostics, but nevertheless maybe useful for someone.
Feel free to contact me if you need anything shown in the pictures.
BTW: Is there any member of this forum able to provide a copy or disc image of the Aston Martin WDS discs? These are the only ones that i'm missing.
BR
Harry
#453
Today I took a look at the Software CDs at my disposal for Ford.
I can offer as ISO-files
Ford A2
Ford A5
Ford A6
Ford B19E
Ford B27
Ford B28
Ford B30
Ford B31
Ford B32
Ford B33
Ford B34
Ford B35
Ford B36
Ford B36A
Ford B37
Ford B38
Ford B39
Ford B39A
Ford B40
Ford B41
Ford B42
Ford B43
Ford B44
Ford B44a
Ford B45
Ford B45-Updates
Ford C4-1
Ford C5-1
Ford C5-2
Ford TSB41/2004
Bold printed are the latest files.
Best regards
André
I can offer as ISO-files
Ford A2
Ford A5
Ford A6
Ford B19E
Ford B27
Ford B28
Ford B30
Ford B31
Ford B32
Ford B33
Ford B34
Ford B35
Ford B36
Ford B36A
Ford B37
Ford B38
Ford B39
Ford B39A
Ford B40
Ford B41
Ford B42
Ford B43
Ford B44
Ford B44a
Ford B45
Ford B45-Updates
Ford C4-1
Ford C5-1
Ford C5-2
Ford TSB41/2004
Bold printed are the latest files.
Best regards
André
Last edited by asgarond; 02-01-2018 at 02:14 PM.
#454
Like many others I ran across the problem of the unavailability of the C248 and C249 probes.
I have find a solution to be able to use the C201 and C202 probes, this requires some changes in the windows registry.
After these changes it is still not possible to pass the self-test but it is possible to use the Multimeter, Oscilloscope and probably all other tests.
This is the registry entry that needs to be changed:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GenRad\System\Probes]
"RedProbe"=dword:00000096
"BlackProbe"=dword:000002a8
to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GenRad\System\Probes]
"RedProbe"=dword:0000125c
"BlackProbe"=dword:000003e8
This has to do with the way the WDS detects probes, the probes have a certain short from one pin to another to detect the right probe. But there is also a resistor inside the probe for identification.
Resistance values for the C201 and C202 probes are respectively 1000 and 4700 Ohm.
Resistance values for the C248 and C249 probe are based on the original registry entry respectively 150 and 680 Ohm.
I hope this is useful,
Stijn
I have find a solution to be able to use the C201 and C202 probes, this requires some changes in the windows registry.
After these changes it is still not possible to pass the self-test but it is possible to use the Multimeter, Oscilloscope and probably all other tests.
This is the registry entry that needs to be changed:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GenRad\System\Probes]
"RedProbe"=dword:00000096
"BlackProbe"=dword:000002a8
to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\GenRad\System\Probes]
"RedProbe"=dword:0000125c
"BlackProbe"=dword:000003e8
This has to do with the way the WDS detects probes, the probes have a certain short from one pin to another to detect the right probe. But there is also a resistor inside the probe for identification.
Resistance values for the C201 and C202 probes are respectively 1000 and 4700 Ohm.
Resistance values for the C248 and C249 probe are based on the original registry entry respectively 150 and 680 Ohm.
I hope this is useful,
Stijn
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#458
Dear Stijn,
thanks for this absolutely fabulous piece of information.
I realized there was a short between Pins 1 and 20 /2 and 20, but I thought they would be different from cable to cable. Never thought of resistors inside.
So thanks again. This will help a couple of people in our Forums and make them happy. :-)
best regards
André
thanks for this absolutely fabulous piece of information.
I realized there was a short between Pins 1 and 20 /2 and 20, but I thought they would be different from cable to cable. Never thought of resistors inside.
So thanks again. This will help a couple of people in our Forums and make them happy. :-)
best regards
André
Last edited by asgarond; 05-15-2018 at 12:14 PM.
#459
The FDS2000 is in my position. It is filthy! I have begun cleaning it. Removing the hardware from the red cases is most helpful. I'll just pressure wash the red plastic cases out.
Now for my question, and perhaps I should begin a new PDU thread, but how do I plug it in and power it up? The manual I have only addresses powering it from a car battery. Is that the only way to charge it up? Is there really no plug for it?
Thanks.
Now for my question, and perhaps I should begin a new PDU thread, but how do I plug it in and power it up? The manual I have only addresses powering it from a car battery. Is that the only way to charge it up? Is there really no plug for it?
Thanks.
#460
Hi Vee,
perhaps you will find some information here: http://www.elpaulio.co.uk/FDS2000/section9.pdf
Take the root page for the whole bunch:
Ford FDS2000 Manuals
Best regards
André
perhaps you will find some information here: http://www.elpaulio.co.uk/FDS2000/section9.pdf
Take the root page for the whole bunch:
Ford FDS2000 Manuals
Best regards
André
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