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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 10:08 AM
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I found working WDS43 ISO images.

I installed successfully from IDE40 PIN CD-ROM to 8GB Compact Flash on IDE44 adapter with 32MB RAM on WDS. CDROM and IDE2CF adapter were connected to WDS internal IDE port with this cable:

WDS disk dump available here to anyone who want image to "dd" (ie raw copy with USB2IDE44 adapter onto CF card): Jaguar WDS43 as dd.exe image
WDS ISO files available to download: WDS JTP 759 Issue 43 ISO Images

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ps. links expire 31.12.2023 so DM / note for new link with email (tomi at lind dot fi)
 
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 09:11 AM
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Default maybe its is possible to add onboard USB to WDS?

Originally Posted by asgarond
Hello forum,
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Now I have a few questions to those that are far more experienced with the system.
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I did not find any USB preparation or port or whatever though the BIOS states that USB is supported.
I looked at this part of the mainboard on the left, and it seemed to me that this could be the location to solder a USB port on. But still there would be the missing resistors L29 and L30. Any suggestions ?



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Best regards
André
I got my hands onto "unipart" labeled device which had no type plate. So I have no idea about part number and such details. It's guite like WDS but somewhat different - power connector is standard 2,5mm x 5,5mm plug, it has InfraRed and USB on board. It's mother board is toast and giving beep error codes (Post beep codes | AMI, Phoenix & Award BIOS error codes (helpwithpcs.com) ) about video part of motherboard is broken. True, no image out from it whatsoever. But to the point...




Interior of WDS like device which has "unipart" label under the screen where usually is "WDS logo" label.

There are the USB supporting components which are missing from WDS devices. Should I compare to @flasher pictures analyze / measure those components and try to make list. And maybe try to solder them onto one bit broken real JagWDS I have gotten to my hands... to see if WDS could have really working onboard USB?

Similar notes were made by @flasher at article https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...5/#post1969554 but I think he newer went to mess with his real WDS. And also I have not seen if @y.roos made any progress with USB onboard...

 
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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Default SD Card and USB 2.0 ports to WDS

Originally Posted by motorcarman
I have been using the 44 pin to CF adapter card as a replacement HDD for the WDS as the old ATA33 drives fail one-by-one.
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I also found a new way to add USB for flash drives without using Windows 98SE upgrade
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I found a way to add PCMCIA USB card to the GDS3500 PTU.
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Following cards were detected by WDS 43 default Windows 98 installation without any updates or tricks. But PS/2 keyboard might be needed to "click" driver installation windows more easy.

HAMA 31in1 PC Card for SD Card

hama 31-in-1 PCMCIA to Secure Digital Adapter Frontside and as sample SanDisk SD Card 1GB card

hama 31-in-1 PCMCIA to Secure Digital Adapter backside

For moving files in and out. I used 1GB and 2GB cards SD cards cleaned with Windows 10 commands "diskpart.exe" "select disk N" (correct numbre for card) and "clean". Insert SD to HAMA and insert HAMA to PCMCIA slot closer to screen. Use "fdisk.exe" and format to create FAT 475MBish partition to Sd card.

Roline Cardbus 32-bit USB 2.0 2-Port
You get USB 2.0 Ports for keyboard and mouse with this PCMCIA card. Roline USB 2.0 2-Port CardBus PC Card - roline Product Number 15.06.2164R






Drivers on WDS version of Windows 98 were working with this card. Insert card to slot closer to bottom of WDS.

Do not remove USB cards until shutdown (removing USB will crash WDS/Windows) - and it also prevents you to remove SD Adapter too.

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ps. I'm looking forward to test if WDS onboard USB port could be activated too: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...2/#post2670431
 
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Old May 2, 2024 | 10:05 PM
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Default WDS Power Supply Replacement

I haven't used my WDS in quite a few years, but today I needed to scan a friend's 2001 XJ6 and after about 10 minutes I believe the Power Supply gave up. The LED's on side by the power supply don't light up and the fan doesn't work.

I search through the WDS thread and from what I gather I need the following to get this back up and running. I like to have the following information confirmed from a member I don't want to risk damaging my unit.

1. An ATX Power Supply and the 20 pin plug should be plug and play.

2. Cut off the 6 pin connector from the old power supply and splice in a laptop power supply that can output 16V. Positive to the 3 orange wires and negative to the 3 black wires.

I hope someone can confirm this.

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Old May 3, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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Yes, this is what I had to do. I used an IBM laptop power supply. I believe I also cut some wires on the ATX connector. I believe somebody posted some photos of the mod in this topic. Good Luck!
 
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Old May 3, 2024 | 05:36 PM
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Thx for the quick response, I found the picture that you mentioned.
 
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Old May 4, 2024 | 04:46 AM
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Default You could use the A-204 battery cable...

Just a suggestion...I charge my WDS PTU's no longer by means of the docking station. I use the A-204 battery cable connected to a small 12v motorcycle battery, which in turn is connected to a trickle charger. In that way my PTU is always completely charged when I need it. Good luck!

Originally Posted by bonanza
I haven't used my WDS in quite a few years, but today I needed to scan a friend's 2001 XJ6 and after about 10 minutes I believe the Power Supply gave up. The LED's on side by the power supply don't light up and the fan doesn't work.

I search through the WDS thread and from what I gather I need the following to get this back up and running. I like to have the following information confirmed from a member I don't want to risk damaging my unit.

1. An ATX Power Supply and the 20 pin plug should be plug and play.

2. Cut off the 6 pin connector from the old power supply and splice in a laptop power supply that can output 16V. Positive to the 3 orange wires and negative to the 3 black wires.

I hope someone can confirm this.

Best regards,

Bonanza
 
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Old May 4, 2024 | 04:55 AM
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Thanks for the tip, I thought it could only be charged on the PTU, I just checked my cables and I do have an A-204.

I've attached it to a spare battery and it powers up!!!

Thanks again.
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 06:07 PM
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Thank you for all the help.....The PTU is up and running.
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 06:14 PM
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Default GENRAD GDS3500 Touchscreen Calibration

Now that the system is up and running, the touchscreen requires calibration. Does anyone know how to do this in WDS.

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Old May 6, 2024 | 08:16 PM
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There are two ways to calibrate.
One is the DOUBLE TAP the RED X shut down pad (VERY QUICKLY)
and the other is to go into the menu and find TOUCHSCREEN CALIBRATION.

The WDS can also be POWERED ON with the OBDII cable connected to the car.

The touchscreen can be 'bypassed' with a keyboard or mouse plugged into the PTU PS2 port on the top access panel.

I use the keyboard AND mouse when the PTU is connected to docking station.
 

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Old Jun 26, 2024 | 09:26 AM
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One dock got shipped from USA to Finland. It has a working dock, working CD and working power supply
And I also got my hands onto WDS which was used by consultant to my XKR before I bougth it 2013 Nov 1st :-O (sessions from 2013, 2016 and 2024 can be seen in image)

 

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Old Jun 27, 2024 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
PTU died on me

blue cables, rebuildable battery pack, a204 power cable are available
Might you still have them, please? The died PTU too?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2024 | 05:27 AM
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Default Jaguar WDS Vibration Cable 3548-5252-00 (C252)

Originally Posted by v12am
The 252 cable is used with the vibration sensor which can either be used independently for vibration analysis or with the driveshaft balancer tool for out of balance diagnostics.

The 253 cable is the interface adaptor cable for the driveshaft balancer tool. The balancer tool is an optical adaptor and is used in conjunction with the vibration sensor to diagnose driveshaft balance issues.

Unfortunately I do not have a picture of the balancer tool.
So GenRad 3130-1399-00 in picture is the Viration Analyzer Transducer, cause Black cable C-252 is for Vibration Analysis? (Blue C-253 cable is for optical sensor?)

 
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Old Jun 27, 2024 | 05:32 AM
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Default What cables with self test?

Originally Posted by heima
I just undocked my PTU, and performed the self-test successfully. There was a message that the unit needed to be docked, but it still did the self-test to completion undocked. And it was running on internal battery power.
Give it a shot, maybe you can with yours.
You did have to use Jaguar Probe cables to complete self-tests?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2024 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
I tried a USB PCMCIA in the PTU but it would not recognize the card.
Maybe upgrade to Windows 98 SE or ME and see if it does work??

bob
This works.
HAMA Universal Serial Bus 2.0 - USB 2.0 CardBus 32bit PC Card 39701


I also managed to get "roline USB 2.0 2-Port CardBus PC Card - 3-ALL-11B" working after I inserted drivers onto WDS HDD/SD and installed whem.
 

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Old Sep 17, 2024 | 03:47 AM
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Did get all old fds and wds systems from Ford includind cd and cables.try to get them work and need do new battery and need get fds cd circuit board as cd not work
allmost all cd only couple of them missing
 
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Old Sep 17, 2024 | 12:01 PM
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I also purchased an FDS2000 awhile back. Converted it successfully over to the Jaguar PDU, with some critical help.

I was able to replace my CD drive with support from GIJZZY

MOTORCARMAN was able to help me sort out software issues.

I also rebuilt a battery pack as well....good luck, it can be done!

The Ford cables are almost all useless for the Jag.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 06:59 AM
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Jaguar WDS CD media and ready installed harddisk images can be found from:

https://archive.org/search?query=Jaguar+WDS
 
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Old Sep 19, 2024 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Vee
I also purchased an FDS2000 awhile back. Converted it successfully over to the Jaguar PDU, with some critical help.

I was able to replace my CD drive with support from GIJZZY

MOTORCARMAN was able to help me sort out software issues.

I also rebuilt a battery pack as well....good luck, it can be done!

The Ford cables are almost all useless for the Jag.
You can use FORD OBD Y cable to charge WDS from wall socket by
[230/115AC Power -> 16v DC Plug] -> [16V Socket - adapter - OBD2 female] -> Ford OBD2 Cable -> WDS Port B


IBM 16v Powerwith 5,5mm/2,5mm plug

To DIY OBD2 adapter

Which connects to (otherways useless Ford) WDS cable 14 and 16 Pin DLC Cable B-241 418-F241 (+ PIN 16 and GND to pins 4 and 5)
 

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