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rdssdi 01-23-2020 07:58 PM

MK2 radiator
 
Looking for a MK2 radiator. Early to mid '60's. All may be the same, I do not know. Prefer one requiring rebuilding. Please contact me with cost and your location. Thanks. Bob

Cass3958 01-24-2020 09:24 AM

Might be better if you told us where you were on the Earth. Auto radiators in the Late 60s with the BW35 box had a cooler in the base, not sure if the DG250 box from the early 60s had a cooler or not.so it might be best if you also state if you want a radiator for an Auto or manual.

rdssdi 01-24-2020 07:00 PM

The early radiators (DG250) did not have the trans cooler at the bottom. I am in eastern pennsylvania U.S.. Sometimes I feel like I am on Mars. Have you ever seen the MK2 radiator from a BW35 car? Must be quite rare in the U.S.. Thanks. Bob

Cass3958 01-25-2020 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by rdssdi (Post 2182776)
The early radiators (DG250) did not have the trans cooler at the bottom. I am in eastern pennsylvania U.S.. Sometimes I feel like I am on Mars. Have you ever seen the MK2 radiator from a BW35 car? Must be quite rare in the U.S.. Thanks. Bob

I have a late S Type with the BW35 box and I know the late Mk2s with the slim bumpers from 1967/68 were fitted with the BW35 box in the UK as well but not sure how many made it to the US.

Coventry Foundation 01-27-2020 06:20 AM

Slim bumper cars were 240/340 not Mk2 and while some have made their way to the US over the years NONE were imported for US customers as the cars were non DOT compliant in too many ways to modify.

Cass3958 01-27-2020 10:11 AM

Thanks for the info I was not aware that the 240/340 version of the Mk2 Jaguar was not exported to the USA. I assume this was also the case for the twelve 380s with slim line bumpers that were built?

Coventry Foundation 01-27-2020 10:27 AM

Correct. Jaguar knew they were replacing all of the sedan range with the XJ6 so no effort was put into making the 240/340/380/ legal. It would have required a change of the entire facia--re engineering the brake system to dual master cylinder or dual braking system along with hundreds of other details. Canada imported the 240/340 and perhaps a 380 but not US.

Cass3958 01-27-2020 01:11 PM

Question though Jeff, if the Mk2 Slim line bumpered 240/340 was not imported to the US due to DOT issues why was the S Type still being imported into the US in June 1968?
Both the S Type and the 240/340 were built on the same platform, other than the rear suspension set up. Same wooden dash, single master cylinder brakes, single circuit brakes and so on. The 420 was a little more safety conscious in that it had a padded dash top but still had as far as I know single circuit brakes and single master cylinder and yet this was also still being imported to the US in 1969!

Coventry Foundation 01-27-2020 01:37 PM

Cass Jaguar only put efforts in the E-Type to update for the 1968 NITSA or DOT standards. They did Not place any effort on any other sedan as the XJ6 (S1) was to be the range in the US. 420,420G,340,240, and S were not imported. It is possible there was unsold stock in the Tariff Free Zones (and most likely was) which could be sold as new but under the 67 rules. THese cars would have already "passed" inspections and were just held. The XJ6 was late to the US (69) so there was a void for a short period.

Cass3958 01-27-2020 02:04 PM

There are always anomalies in this DATA. On the S Type register we have a LHD 3.8 S Types with a manufacturer date of June 1968 in the US but who is to say this is not a later import from Europe or Canada. Thank you for information. They say learn something new everyday.

Coventry Foundation 01-27-2020 02:24 PM

The US has a import law that a car 25 years or older may be imported. I have a Riley Elf for fun---but never imported at the time.

Glyn M Ruck 01-28-2020 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cass3958 (Post 2183812)
There are always anomalies in this DATA. On the S Type register we have a LHD 3.8 S Types with a manufacturer date of June 1968 in the US but who is to say this is not a later import from Europe or Canada. Thank you for information. They say learn something new everyday.

S Types were imported new to the US. Only in 3.8 form. They were replaced the minute the 420 became available that sold well in the US. The 420 had padded dash, padded door panels instead of wood with a small wooden garnish rail top of door & dual circuit brakes.

Cass3958 01-29-2020 06:00 AM

Thanks Glyn is this all that was needed then to get the 420 around the DOT laws? I was not aware the 420 had dual circuit brakes I thought it was the same as the S Type so again that is something new for today.

Glyn M Ruck 01-29-2020 06:19 AM

Yes basically. The 420 was fully compliant. Another thing they had to do was reduce the size of the 7" headlights that the body was pressed for. So they installed a chrome filler piece so that the 420 had 4 ~ 5.7" approx headlights to meet US regulations. i.e. 4 small lights instead of large outers & small inners. Can't think of anything else offhand.

Glyn M Ruck 01-31-2020 05:49 AM

~~~ 420


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Cass3958 01-31-2020 06:10 AM

You know I had never noticed the smaller lights before Glyn. First glance without knowing and you think they are the standard 7 inch the same as the S Type then you see the large chrome insert to make them look bigger that the inner lights. Also the fact that all four lights are on the same level unlike the S type where the Fog/driving lights are lower than the main lights.
Very interesting and thank you.

Glyn M Ruck 01-31-2020 09:31 AM

Remember UK cars still have 7 inch outers. Shown above is US only.

Cass3958 01-31-2020 09:33 AM

That's why I have never noticed it in the UK then. Dah Dah !!!


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