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domer94 04-20-2019 02:45 PM

just a recent observation about forums
 
I just bought a 2005 Mercedes C240 wagon for my wife. cherry condition , but my first foray into german cars. so like usual , I joined a merc forum to punt around and learn some stuff. I posted a simple question as to if 2005 c class had TPMS due to the fact im thinking of changing wheels. SO I guess I broke some cardinal sin or something , because the hostile attitude and horrible replies that drew just shocked me. all my years of owning different british cars and being on forums, I have never experienced such a thing. just a complete turnoff.

GGG 04-20-2019 02:57 PM

We're so friendly here, we even answer questions about German marques.

TPMS is available on the Mercedes C240 but I don't know if it was standard or an option. I may venture over to the Mercedes forum later and ask for clarification. :icon_lol:

Graham

AJ16er 04-20-2019 04:45 PM

I am a member of a VW forum and can relate. I am almost thinking of posting any questions about my Touareg here. We have disagreements here on certain topics but the atmosphere is much more friendly.

sklimii 04-20-2019 05:43 PM

main reason we got rid of the CLK 430 - the 2 forums I joined treated you like dirt. will stick with Jags - friendlier environment and members always willing to offer assistance. And to be honest - I'm not impressed with Mercedes at all - had the CLK430 and a CLA 250 - both left a lot to be desired when compared to what the Jags offer

Daf11e 04-20-2019 06:11 PM

We are looking at replacing the old Range Rover and thanks to the great help from this forum it will be a Jag.
(probably the XE). I am a member of two other forums (Range Rover and Peugeot) both of which can be rude and abrupt to new members seeking help and guidance.

domer94 04-20-2019 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by sklimii (Post 2058315)
main reason we got rid of the CLK 430 - the 2 forums I joined treated you like dirt. will stick with Jags - friendlier environment and members always willing to offer assistance. And to be honest - I'm not impressed with Mercedes at all - had the CLK430 and a CLA 250 - both left a lot to be desired when compared to what the Jags offer

I hear you , ive been tempted by the sirens song over the years with some 1990s SL roadsters... never pulled the trigger. however , this wagon was too good to pass up and just what she needed. it was one of those rare gems that were taken care of. I traded a 2010 gmc terrain that was acting up so much I finally got disgusted

AJ16er 04-20-2019 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by domer94 (Post 2058335)
I hear you , ive been tempted by the sirens song over the years with some 1990s SL roadsters... never pulled the trigger. however , this wagon was too good to pass up and just what she needed. it was one of those rare gems that were taken care of. I traded a 2010 gmc terrain that was acting up so much I finally got disgusted

What problems did you have with the GMC?

domer94 04-20-2019 07:39 PM

one thing after the other. she had 110k on her, power steering pump burnt up, there was a mystery interior fogging condition that made my wife have to scrape the inside of the windshield all winter and spend 20 min defrosting ( I suspect water intrusion someplace.. no idea where) , alternator failed and left her stranded in a bad area , then the sunroof started acting up and not closing... that was it. I reached critical mass.. oh yeah , and navigation would not store addresses. would always default to what the PO had. learned the whole receiver unit had to be replaced. - we tried hard reste / dealer tried wiping clean etc etc

AJ16er 04-20-2019 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by domer94 (Post 2058345)
one thing after the other. she had 110k on her, power steering pump burnt up, there was a mystery interior fogging condition that made my wife have to scrape the inside of the windshield all winter and spend 20 min defrosting ( I suspect water intrusion someplace.. no idea where) , alternator failed and left her stranded in a bad area , then the sunroof started acting up and not closing... that was it. I reached critical mass.. oh yeah , and navigation would not store addresses. would always default to what the PO had. learned the whole receiver unit had to be replaced. - we tried hard reste / dealer tried wiping clean etc etc

Yep, sounds familiar. I've had terrible experiences with anything GM. Would never purchase one of their cars. I am confident the MB will serve you much better.

pdupler 04-20-2019 09:35 PM

Something about the internet and forums, people will be rude and think it doesn't matter because they are anonymous. I'm also on a Corvette restoration forum where you have no choice, your user name is your real name. That ought to be the rule IMO. Rarely see anyone be anything other than helpful there. That's why I didn't make up some cryptic user name for forums, I'm here to connect, not vent my frustrations. I've run into people at local car shows who read my window card and say, "Hey I know you from such and such forum" and I'm just as happy to chat in person as online.

Grant Francis 04-20-2019 10:14 PM

I agree 100%.

Rude is a NO NO here, Graham will fly down on his broom and ":smack ya" if caught.

Everyone was a "newby" at some stage of their life, and help is CHEAP, honestly.

My kids are some "other" cars Forums, and report the same.

LnrB 04-20-2019 10:30 PM

I joined another Jag forum soon after I got Nix (didn't know about this one), but they would hardly acknowledged my existence let alone answer my questions; and if they did, it was in the Most condescending manner imaginable. I've never figured out of they're a bunch of misogynists (certainly I've never seen another woman there) or just don't like V8 Jaguars.

Whatever the case, as soon as I found this place I've brought all my Jaguar business here (and a few other things). It's pleasant and I'm comfortable posting, with no fear of vicious criticism or rude remarks when I ask dumb questions.

Not to say there aren't disagreements, but mostly they're amicably resolved as far as I've seen.

Anything to keep Graham happy! :icon_cool:
(';')

dga57 04-21-2019 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by LnrB (Post 2058404)
I joined another Jag forum soon after I got Nix (didn't know about this one), but they would hardly acknowledged my existence let alone answer my questions; and if they did, it was in the Most condescending manner imaginable.
:icon_cool:
(';')

I had a similar experience with the Rolls-Royce Owners Club and that, in large part, was why I ultimately decided to sell my '97 Silver Spur. Not a car you want to own without a knowledgeable forum to back you up and that forum is the most unfriendly place I've ever been!

Dwayne

o1xjr 04-21-2019 07:48 AM

I joined this forum in 2014, a few days after purchasing my XJ6 . I found helpful answers to my problems, and a friendly bunch of people willing to that extra bit to make sure you were sorted.

I used a Jeep forum for years without joining to work on my XJ Cherokee, it was very helpful reading. When I upgraded to a KK Cherokee I joined up as this "modern car" was a different monster to work on. That is when I realised how rude these people could be if you didn't own an XJ.

Same thing with "Kawi forums", if you are not an old member your questions go unansewred. Had rude comments at best and no help with issues. So I am sorting the GPZ the old way, lots of ph calls and finding local people with the knowledge.


Originally Posted by LnrB (Post 2058404)
It's pleasant and I'm comfortable posting, with no fear of vicious criticism or rude remarks when I ask dumb questions.

Not to say there aren't disagreements, but mostly they're amicably resolved as far as I've seen.

Anything to keep Graham happy! :icon_cool:
(';')

LnrB , it's only a dumb question if you already know the answer. I was taught as an apprentice to ask questions no matter how stupid you thought they might be. If you don't know the answer someone needs to teach you.

AJ16er 04-21-2019 08:50 AM

o1xjr ZX Forums is a much better one.

o1xjr 04-21-2019 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by AJ16er (Post 2058555)
o1xjr ZX Forums is a much better one.

AJ16er Thank you. I will take a look.

Jon89 04-21-2019 09:41 AM

We came close to pulling the trigger on a couple of Mercedes-Benz vehicles during the first half of 2018. I did not find the M-B forums I utilized for research to be rude, just not very supportive. That may have been due to those particular M-B owners not being DIY guys. The majority of them seemed to rely primarily upon their dealership or indie shop to handle all of their maintenance and repair work. We ultimately decided not to purchase either M-B vehicle we were considering, and part of that decision was due to my perception of insufficient forum support....

Our Jaguar forum is by far the best automotive forum I have ever been a member of. Without it, we would no longer own a Jaguar....

Doug 04-21-2019 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jon89 (Post 2058568)

Our Jaguar forum is by far the best automotive forum I have ever been a member of. Without it, we would no longer own a Jaguar....

I visit many different car forums.

Jag and Brit cars forums, almost without fail, have the nicest people and best support. This forum in particular is a standout, IMO.

Many other forums are hit-n-miss. Some good, some bad.

Often just a small handful of vocal members can change the entire atmosphere of a place, for better or worse.

Many years ago there were some people on Jag-lovers who gave the place a very hard-edged feel. That element seems to be gone nowadays, as far as I can tell.

Cheers
DD

dga57 04-21-2019 07:38 PM

Active moderator involvement is key to a good forum and the moderation here is magnificent. I am Chief Moderator/Administrator of the PCCA (Pinto Car Club of America) site and spend a couple hours every day fulfilling the duties of that position. The most constant comment I hear from newcomers is how friendly our site is. Much of that is due to what goes on unseen in the background. It is the foundation of a good car forum.

Dwayne

domer94 04-21-2019 08:15 PM

thanks for your efforts Dwayne. the results show


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