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Old 06-29-2018, 04:52 AM
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For my Jag S-Type R 4.2 V8 supercharged November 2002 - VIN SAJAA03S221M62587
Are these the relevant Jag pads
Front - C2C24018
Rear - C2C24016 -

Any suggestions re good makers of budget non-Jag options? - I am not looking for performance - car is getting long in the tooth!
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:11 AM
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Look into the Akebono pads. They aren't performance pads per say but they don't leave a lot of dirt. Not terribly expensive but not dirt cheap either.
THey're already documented on here, use the search.
Your car has Brembo calipers so those are different from all the other S-Type models even the STR from 2006 on.
Centric makes very nice rotors at reasonable pricing as well.
I just did my car @ 65K miles. The brakes are a dream now.
 
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The part numbers are good.
The change was not until VIN N52048.

By the way the '21' before the M62587 is:

'2' for a 2002 model year car.
'1' for a 4.2 V8 S/C made at Castle Bromwich.

Brembo are the original equipment make for the front pads, You should be able to get Brembo front pads for about £55. (£141.31+ from jaguar!) This is in the UK I am unsure about France?
 
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Thanks M..
Mine has only 74,000 Km - with annual service since 2003 by Jaguar.
But they have gone to pot locally regarding service - high charges, seemingly poorly-trained mechanics - many errors!
Wonderful car, but here in the South of France, the "joy" of driving has gone - too many radar cameras!
 
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do not forget about the special tool to screw the caliper pistons back in
 

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do not forget about the special tool to screw the caliper pistons back in

Yeah look at the thread I did on this recently (search). Over there I think you can buy the OTC brand one pretty reasonably. I borrowed one from my mechanic.
 
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Yeah look at the thread I did on this recently (search). Over there I think you can buy the OTC brand one pretty reasonably. I borrowed one from my mechanic.
I just remembered Staatsof. The measurements you made of your caliper pin holes were great..I checked my caliper kit and I have the exact adapter in that kit I got off of ebay...in case you need one sunshinesdad check the thread Staatsof is referring to...there is a photo and I believe in one of my posts an ebay item number...it would be from the USA of course but you could use the actual part number of the kit and search there in France
 
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Do I need the caliper kit for the front pad replacement, or only for the rear?

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I just remembered Staatsof. The measurements you made of your caliper pin holes were great..I checked my caliper kit and I have the exact adapter in that kit I got off of ebay...in case you need one sunshinesdad check the thread Staatsof is referring to...there is a photo and I believe in one of my posts an ebay item number...it would be from the USA of course but you could use the actual part number of the kit and search there in France
 
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These might help

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...-brake-202199/

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...emoval-201769/

As for the caliper kit, if your pins and top piece springs are good condition then no need to replace them. Mine cleaned up nicely @ 65K miles but I don't drive the car in the winter/snow/salt.
 
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Default So apart from parking brake I don't need a tool to replace front/rear pads?

Thanks Staatsof!

Please forgive my inexperience - do I understand that only when replacing parking brake pads do I need a special tool?

So for Brembo fronts, and rear - no tool is needed?

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These might help

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...-brake-202199/

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...emoval-201769/

As for the caliper kit, if your pins and top piece springs are good condition then no need to replace them. Mine cleaned up nicely @ 65K miles but I don't drive the car in the winter/snow/salt.
 
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Yes that is correct. Now in my case I was also replacing the rotors which means that in the rear the parking brake caliper (which is seperate) does have to come off. So it was necessary to reset that with the special tool. If all you are doing is new pads for the front & rear calipers then you don't have to concern yourself with this.

BTW my parking brake pads were still very serviceable @ 65K miles.

I also put my Akebono pads on the first time @ 20K miles and didn't do anything to the rotors and it was an easy job. Even @ 65K miles my rotors still were good but obviously worn and also very rusty.
The new rotors have better rust protection.
 
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My EPB pads - OK at 135K. (But I don't apply the EPB very often.)
 
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Forgive me...i chimed in with mis information..staatsof had a post regarding the brembo park brake...i thought it was for the main brakes...that is why I mentioned the special tool..sorry for any confusion
 
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Default Early parking brake problems.

The parking brake system was a problem on the early 4,2 STR’s. Mine froze twice overnight in the mountains in Winter, and I had to wait a couple of hours till the sun came up and the temperature rose. Later they “locked on” in my garage, and the local Jag Dealer (was great in those days) sent two mechanics to my home (in an Aston Martin) where they cut the cables and drove away to fix.
later, as I remember, there was a general recall to replace all of the early parking brake systems.

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Yes that is correct. Now in my case I was also replacing the rotors which means that in the rear the parking brake caliper (which is seperate) does have to come off. So it was necessary to reset that with the special tool. If all you are doing is new pads for the front & rear calipers then you don't have to concern yourself with this.

BTW my parking brake pads were still very serviceable @ 65K miles.

I also put my Akebono pads on the first time @ 20K miles and didn't do anything to the rotors and it was an easy job. Even @ 65K miles my rotors still were good but obviously worn and also very rusty.
The new rotors have better rust protection.
 
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Old 07-02-2018, 04:17 AM
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My EPB pads - OK at 135K. (But I don't apply the EPB very often.)
Mine is automatic which means it's never used while the discs are turning so they should outlast the car! I came across a set of these for $25 and just decided to put them in while I was doing the brakes.
 
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Originally Posted by sunshinesdad
The parking brake system was a problem on the early 4,2 STR’s. Mine froze twice overnight in the mountains in Winter, and I had to wait a couple of hours till the sun came up and the temperature rose. Later they “locked on” in my garage, and the local Jag Dealer (was great in those days) sent two mechanics to my home (in an Aston Martin) where they cut the cables and drove away to fix.
later, as I remember, there was a general recall to replace all of the early parking brake systems.


There are stories on here about the motorized mechanism failing but I would think trying to bypass that would cause all sorts of issues with the cars ECU. THis is a car that loves to try and out think then forbid you.
The things it does to not allow locking and unlocking of doors and the trunk are often truly maddening. Try opening the driver door and then hitting the unlock button. Mine forbids this.

I also have to have the car in park to pop open the trunk. As a kid I never had a nanny. I had to wait until my 50s and splurge on an expensive British car before I got my first nanny ...
 
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This was the recall - your car was later I believe.

https://auto-recalls.justia.com/jagu...004/04v488000/


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There are stories on here about the motorized mechanism failing but I would think trying to bypass that would cause all sorts of issues with the cars ECU. THis is a car that loves to try and out think then forbid you.
The things it does to not allow locking and unlocking of doors and the trunk are often truly maddening. Try opening the driver door and then hitting the unlock button. Mine forbids this.

I also have to have the car in park to pop open the trunk. As a kid I never had a nanny. I had to wait until my 50s and splurge on an expensive British car before I got my first nanny ...
 
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His car should be well after that VIN / build date.

You can always ask any dealer to check for outstanding recalls.
 
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The stories I was referring to involved lubrication and corrosion issues. When I tackle the failed boots on my rear suspension links I should probably check for any issues like this. My car doesn't see salt here because it's dormant during those months. They use incredible amounts of the stuff here. I may be losing my Suburban to it as I now have two bad rusty cracks in the frame right at the a-arm mounts. It's hell to be a car here.
 
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