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baldeagle15 03-05-2015 12:59 PM

Throttle Position Sensor SOLVED!
 
The non-availability of a new replacement Denso 198500-3300 TPS has been the subject of much discussion on these forums. I am pleased to report that I found one on the internet for about$100. I cleaned the throttle body on my '04 V6 and installed it and it works perfectly! No reprogramming or Jag voodoo required! The only trick is to have the bit for the TPS screws. This is a common 5-point torx TS20 tamper-resistant bit, not a Jaguar specialty bit. Regular torx are 6-point and don't work. A set including the correct bit is available on Amazon for $8.99. I ordered the TPS from automotivepartsfactory.com. It was advertised for the X-type, but works perfectly on my S-Type (and, I expect, the XKs as well). I hope this helps you guys avoid having to buy a new throttle body from Jaguar. Carl

tbird6 03-05-2015 03:58 PM

Thanks for that!

Is this only for the V-6 engine?
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baldeagle15 03-06-2015 07:47 AM

It should work for any engine that uses the Denso 198500-3300 TPS. The number is embossed on the TPS and is easily readable on the V6.

Cambo 03-06-2015 07:49 AM

Yes, the Denso 198500-3300 is used on a number of Jag engines

S-Type 2002.5 onwards; 2.5L, 3.0L, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C
X-Type 2.5L & 3.0L
X350 XJ 3.0L, 3.5L, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C
XF 3.0L N/A, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C

Same TPS fitted to different throttle bodies.

tbird6 03-06-2015 12:44 PM

Glad to see it fits all the engines used on the S Type. Very useful!
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Forcedair1 04-22-2015 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 1177207)
Yes, the Denso 198500-3300 is used on a number of Jag engines

S-Type 2002.5 onwards; 2.5L, 3.0L, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C
X-Type 2.5L & 3.0L
X350 XJ 3.0L, 3.5L, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C
XF 3.0L N/A, 4.2L, 4.2L S/C

Same TPS fitted to different throttle bodies.

Would this mean that this P/N does not apply to the X308 engine?

phemes 11-24-2015 10:12 AM

Will let you know
 
Mine has issues so I will obtain one and try it on my XJR and report back.

NDW 01-04-2016 08:29 PM

Bought a cheaper TPS on EBay, and it threw the ESC, brake fault, & DSC error codes after installing and reinstalling it several times. I put the original TPS back on and the car acted completely normal. Must be a bad part, returning it and trying to find an OEM part.

phemes 01-08-2016 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Forcedair1 (Post 1212418)
Would this mean that this P/N does not apply to the X308 engine?

No........internals are the same but mechanical linkage is different. If you were feeling particularly adventurous you could unsolder the track from the new one and fit it to the faulty unit. It is possible to do.

gmcgann 01-09-2016 03:20 PM

I see two sensors listed on that site, neither of which are Denso brand. There is this one for $35.99
Issyzone TPS Throttle Position Sensor For Jaguar X-Type 2.5L 3.0L 02 03 198500-3300

And this one for $47.99
B984 198500-3300 02-04 Jaguar X-Type Throttle Position Sensor TPS 02 03 04

I've had TPS problems in the past which I cured temporarily with cleaning and dielectric grease. I'm going to order the more expensive one - maybe more expensive is better? (Plus, Motor King sounds better than Issyzone.)

plums 01-09-2016 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by phemes (Post 1378077)
No........internals are the same but mechanical linkage is different. If you were feeling particularly adventurous you could unsolder the track from the new one and fit it to the faulty unit. It is possible to do.

Do the tracks have the same electrical characteristics?

MrWest 02-21-2016 07:38 PM

I'm planning on replacing my throttle body for the same TPS error code people here are experiencing (P1251). Has anyone had success curing the Engine Systems Fault / DSC / Park Brake error with one of these TPS sensors?

Datsports 02-21-2016 09:26 PM

ha jaguar dealers in aukland new zealand replaced my hole throttle body because of that sensor ,before i bought the car the receipt says the part alone was $1280nzd .
it went on to fail again as they did not do the TSB water proof patch above the tps under the wiper panel and it got wet again ! clowns ! still thanks to them the car went up for sale and i took my chances with it , and love it .

jaguar.awd 02-01-2018 07:19 AM

Denso 198500-3300
 

Originally Posted by baldeagle15 (Post 1176582)
The non-availability of a new replacement Denso 198500-3300 TPS has been the subject of much discussion on these forums. I am pleased to report that I found one on the internet for about$100. I cleaned the throttle body on my '04 V6 and installed it and it works perfectly! No reprogramming or Jag voodoo required! The only trick is to have the bit for the TPS screws. This is a common 5-point torx TS20 tamper-resistant bit, not a Jaguar specialty bit. Regular torx are 6-point and don't work. A set including the correct bit is available on Amazon for $8.99. I ordered the TPS from automotivepartsfactory.com. It was advertised for the X-type, but works perfectly on my S-Type (and, I expect, the XKs as well). I hope this helps you guys avoid having to buy a new throttle body from Jaguar. Carl


I search, where in Europe to buy sensor "Denso 198500-3300" only (not complete trottle body), for my 2004 Jaguar X-type 2.5 (petrol), V6, AWD, classic, saloon ?

I saw possibilities from sellers from USA, but there ara big problems with shipping tax or customs.

Also, Asia is problem. If you want to buy Denso, they sell "chinese Denso", not "made in Japan".

Gus 02-01-2018 04:58 PM

https://www.ebay.com/i/292144401336?rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-X-TY...-/112651355430

jaguar.awd 02-02-2018 09:46 AM

Thanks for reply. Some of these links goes to USA sellers. I am from Europe (Bosna i Hercegovina) and I avoid tu buy in USA (high shipping fee and USA export custom tax),

I found one eauropean link https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...solved-138182/


If I understood, trere is no chanse to find a new Denso 198500-3300 .

I can find used Denso 198500-3300 or a new "non Denso" 198500-3300 ?

In that solution, better is used Denso 198500-3300 than chinese 198500-3300 .


Why I need to replace TBS?


Due to error: P1582 !


I cannot solve that error several montsh and I do not know what to do, but engine works good.

There is no Jaguar service in Bosna i Hercerovine, so I usualy go to Ford service, because thay have tools.

Gus 02-02-2018 12:18 PM

I would first pull the plug for the sensor and spray it with contact cleaner then do a hard reset and see what takes place.

If I recall correctly the last time I checked a P1582 on a XType it was for an O2 sensor.

jaguar.awd 02-06-2018 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by Gus (Post 1836243)
I would first pull the plug for the sensor and spray it with contact cleaner then do a hard reset and see what takes place.

If I recall correctly the last time I checked a P1582 on a XType it was for an O2 sensor.


My TB and TBS were already cleaned, but yellow indicator light cannot desappear almost 8 months.

About "hard reset".

Reset and reprogramming are able to make only official Jaguar service. There is no licenced Jaguar Bosna i Hercegovina . In Beograd [Srbija] is the nearest Jaguar service but far from Mostar [Bosna i Hercegovina].

But, in Mostar is licenced Toyota service.

Denso 198500-3300 is used on a number of Jaguar engines and PERHAPS in several models of Toyota.

Maybe, somebody knows which models of Toyota use TPS, compatibile (or even same) as Denso 198500-3300.

Maybe, that Toyota's TPS has no equal number [198500-3300], but is same in functional meaning.

The number of product of that Toyota's TPS will help me.

JagV8 02-06-2018 04:34 AM

Look at the workshop manual / codes PDF!

P1582 is "flight" recorder data. Read the info - free to download!

It does not have anything in itself to do with TPS.

You have some fault that leads to P1582. Find that fault, then fix it.

Might be as simple as bad power.

If you want to decode P1582 get a cheap Mongoose-type tool but ONLY use it to read data.

And PLEASE go to the CORRECT forum!!!!

OnebadassXJR 07-30-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by phemes (Post 1378077)
No........internals are the same but mechanical linkage is different. If you were feeling particularly adventurous you could unsolder the track from the new one and fit it to the faulty unit. It is possible to do.

You never reported back, did it work?? Thanks.


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