2014 V-8S vs. later years' R models
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2014 V-8S vs. later years' R models
Hi everyone, I'm wondering if you may have any insight to share with a prospective buyer.
Are the 2014 V-8S models considered significantly different from the Rs of later years? I understand they have the same engine, just different tunes. Are the V-8S models "worth" less if shopping for used ones? Were they sold at considerably higher discounts perhaps when new? Do they perhaps have less appeal when selling, say in 3-4 years from now? I realize that these are somewhat abstract questions, but I would really love to hear any such thoughts or opinions you guys may have. Any other positive/negative things to consider when buying the V-8S? Especially against the Rs of later years or even the V-6S versions (other than the obvious power difference, that is)?
Cheers!
Are the 2014 V-8S models considered significantly different from the Rs of later years? I understand they have the same engine, just different tunes. Are the V-8S models "worth" less if shopping for used ones? Were they sold at considerably higher discounts perhaps when new? Do they perhaps have less appeal when selling, say in 3-4 years from now? I realize that these are somewhat abstract questions, but I would really love to hear any such thoughts or opinions you guys may have. Any other positive/negative things to consider when buying the V-8S? Especially against the Rs of later years or even the V-6S versions (other than the obvious power difference, that is)?
Cheers!
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2014 and 15 (I think) are the only years with RWD and V8. R's have ~10% more hp than V8S. But don't let that scare you off of a 2014. They have plenty of motor. And if it's not enough, a tune is cheap enough. Other than the addition of a coupe, the year to year changes (14 to 15) are pretty minor.
Given how bullet proof these things have proven to be so far, have no qualms about getting a 14. I've got 28k and other than the standard TSBs, nothing has broken.
Given how bullet proof these things have proven to be so far, have no qualms about getting a 14. I've got 28k and other than the standard TSBs, nothing has broken.
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2014 and 15 (I think) are the only years with RWD and V8. R's have ~10% more hp than V8S. But don't let that scare you off of a 2014. They have plenty of motor. And if it's not enough, a tune is cheap enough. Other than the addition of a coupe, the year to year changes (14 to 15) are pretty minor.
Given how bullet proof these things have proven to be so far, have no qualms about getting a 14. I've got 28k and other than the standard TSBs, nothing has broken.
Given how bullet proof these things have proven to be so far, have no qualms about getting a 14. I've got 28k and other than the standard TSBs, nothing has broken.
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Good point, thanks!! If I were to buy the car from a 3rd party, do JLR dealers sell extended warranties? I've seen some quotes on this forum and they seemed pretty reasonable, but I can't recall if those were for cars purchased from dealers.
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There are zero functional/mechanical differences between a V8S and a rwd V8R......and despite the marketing hype, the actual hp differences are 510ps/503hp vs. 550ps/542hp. ....and of course a VAP tune can take you to 550/575 or 600hp with no other changes.
The V8S is a bargain out there and if you want a 'vert and are OK with RWD (my preference) I wouldn't hesitate to grab one.
I bought my CPO 2014 V8S a year ago with 7000 miles on it and it has been stellar so far. I saved 30% and I still have 1.5 years warranty left.
Cheers,
Dave
The V8S is a bargain out there and if you want a 'vert and are OK with RWD (my preference) I wouldn't hesitate to grab one.
I bought my CPO 2014 V8S a year ago with 7000 miles on it and it has been stellar so far. I saved 30% and I still have 1.5 years warranty left.
Cheers,
Dave
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There are zero functional/mechanical differences between a V8S and a rwd V8R......and despite the marketing hype, the actual hp differences are 510ps/503hp vs. 550ps/542hp. ....and of course a VAP tune can take you to 550/575 or 600hp with no other changes.
The V8S is a bargain out there and if you want a 'vert and are OK with RWD (my preference) I wouldn't hesitate to grab one.
I bought my CPO 2014 V8S a year ago with 7000 miles on it and it has been stellar so far. I saved 30% and I still have 1.5 years warranty left.
Cheers,
Dave
The V8S is a bargain out there and if you want a 'vert and are OK with RWD (my preference) I wouldn't hesitate to grab one.
I bought my CPO 2014 V8S a year ago with 7000 miles on it and it has been stellar so far. I saved 30% and I still have 1.5 years warranty left.
Cheers,
Dave
2 quick questions:
1. What's the source of the 510ps/503hp number? JLR advertises 495. That's a tiny difference of course, but I'm just curious.
2. Are you looking in to extending that warranty through JLR? I'm wondering if they can sell extended warranties even if the car wasn't purchased at a dealership.
Thanks again.
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I picked up a 2014 V8s vert in October of 2016. It has been pretty much bullet proof other than my blind spot monitors which are currently being replaced by the dealer as I write this. My car is a CPO vehicle and I have two years remaining on the warranty as a result. This car is under warranty until late 2019, which is probably when I will sell it (that said, and I have posted elsewhere, that the 2017 ZL1 is somewhat calling my name). Getting a 2014 vert is a great option though as they have come down in price quite a lot, but are still very powerful, comfortable and sexy as hell. The 2015 coupe is a bit more practical as it has a bigger trunk and will experience less wind noise in the cabin compared with the convertible. If you do lots of short lower speed drives the vert will be great. If you do lots of highway drives, you may want to look at spending a bit more on the coupe. Those are my thoughts, but you cant go wrong either way.
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This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you Dave! I have always owned RWD cars, that's my preference as well.
2 quick questions:
1. What's the source of the 510ps/503hp number? JLR advertises 495. That's a tiny difference of course, but I'm just curious.
2. Are you looking in to extending that warranty through JLR? I'm wondering if they can sell extended warranties even if the car wasn't purchased at a dealership.
Thanks again.
2 quick questions:
1. What's the source of the 510ps/503hp number? JLR advertises 495. That's a tiny difference of course, but I'm just curious.
2. Are you looking in to extending that warranty through JLR? I'm wondering if they can sell extended warranties even if the car wasn't purchased at a dealership.
Thanks again.
.....but the real proof is in the file.
I'm not looking at extending my warranty. I'd imagine that most warranties offered beyond the CPO warranty are third party.
Dave
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Some reading for you;
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...add-up-177420/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...epower-158906/
Dave
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...add-up-177420/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...epower-158906/
Dave
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Curious as to why you think that? This is the first convertible I have owned and I don't have any issues with noise / wind driving on the highway with the roof up. Infact I find it remarkably quiet.
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I agree with you that, for a convertible, the F-Type Vert is very quiet. But when I drive other cars with roofs, it reminds me how loud the F-Type still is compared with a "roofed" car.
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I picked up a 2014 V8s vert in October of 2016. It has been pretty much bullet proof other than my blind spot monitors which are currently being replaced by the dealer as I write this. My car is a CPO vehicle and I have two years remaining on the warranty as a result. This car is under warranty until late 2019, which is probably when I will sell it (that said, and I have posted elsewhere, that the 2017 ZL1 is somewhat calling my name). Getting a 2014 vert is a great option though as they have come down in price quite a lot, but are still very powerful, comfortable and sexy as hell. The 2015 coupe is a bit more practical as it has a bigger trunk and will experience less wind noise in the cabin compared with the convertible. If you do lots of short lower speed drives the vert will be great. If you do lots of highway drives, you may want to look at spending a bit more on the coupe. Those are my thoughts, but you cant go wrong either way.
There are threads here on the "true" V8S hp but basically, people in the know have said that the files for V8S downloads are marked "510PS" and it's the same tune used in other JLR products rated at that level. In addition, although the car is rated at 495hp in N.A., it's also rated at 495PS in Europe.....they run the same software so both can't be right! You'll find some sources have them at 488hp (which is 495PS) as well. Finally, the quarter mile testing shows a relative lack of difference between the V8S and V8R compared to what you'd expect with a 55hp variance.
.....but the real proof is in the file.
I'm not looking at extending my warranty. I'd imagine that most warranties offered beyond the CPO warranty are third party.
Dave
.....but the real proof is in the file.
I'm not looking at extending my warranty. I'd imagine that most warranties offered beyond the CPO warranty are third party.
Dave
Some reading for you;
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...add-up-177420/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...epower-158906/
Dave
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...add-up-177420/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...epower-158906/
Dave
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