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patrick12 Jun 14, 2009 03:34 PM

How to remove this part?
 
Hello,

i will painting it new and must remove it, how it goes i can not find a instruction on jtis, can somebody help me please?

Photo:
http://s2b.directupload.net/file/d/1...4igd5t_jpg.htm

Disco stu55 Jun 14, 2009 04:50 PM

yeah i need to paint mine too

Thermo Jun 14, 2009 05:05 PM

Patrick/Disco, when I removed mine, I ended up pulling the whole bumper cover off. To do this, you will need to pull back the carpetting inside the trunk and remove the two 10mm bolts on each side holding the sides in place. You will also need to undo the bolts between the fender liner and the bumper cover. From there, you should be able to pull the bumper cover off the back of the car. At this point, you can lay the bumper down on the ground (place towels or other cloth on the ground first). From here, you can disconnect the 4 plugs for the backup sensors and disconnect the clips for the piece in question. At this point you can remove the piece in question.

Now, when you go to paint it, you will want to remove the back up sensors prior to painting. To remove these, you will want to place your thumb against the outside face of the back up sensor with one hand and then undoing the 2 clips holding the sensor in place. From there, push with your thumb to press it back into the piece. DO NOT!!!!! pull on the part. I did this and ended up breaking the sensor and $80 later I had a new sensor. Also, you only need to push on the very center of the sensor as the outer ring is part of the retaining clip.

If you have more questions, just ask.

Disco stu55 Jun 14, 2009 05:13 PM

without doing that, do u think i can painte it with out removing the bumper cover, and wat kind of paint would you recommend, also i would tape off the sensors and the nessary parts of the car

JagXV6 Jun 15, 2009 08:27 AM

I would think it would be very easy to paint in place. It will just take some good taping and covering to prevent over spray from getting on the trunk (boot) and tail pipes. I would still remove the sensors. The black on mine is all faded too and I'd like to paint mine too--and I will do it in place when I do. However nice instructions above for those who do want to take it off.

patrick12 Jun 15, 2009 03:05 PM

my jaguar dealer told me today, this kind of plastic is not possible to lacquer, is it truth?

christo Jun 15, 2009 03:33 PM

What do you use to paint these pieces?

patrick12 Jun 15, 2009 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by christo (Post 120486)
What do you use to paint these pieces?



nothing to now, what i have to use?

Thermo Jun 15, 2009 09:14 PM

http://www.virtualford.org/photopost...Dsc02706sm.jpg

This is what the part on my car looks like painted. As you can see, the sensors are not painted. As for the type of paint, I first removed the part from the car, cleaned it really good and then sprayed the part with an adhesion promoter (made by Bully Dog). This is necessary to allow the paint to "float" on top of the plastic to prevent cracking during flexing. After that dried, I used some Dimension 2000 2 stage paint in the British Racing green. After the paint dried, I sprayed it with some Dimension 2000 clear coat. Once all was dry, I reassembled the piece and reinstalled on the car. The painting process took about 3 days to do. It is highly recommended to allow the part to dry for a full day between the different types of paint to prevent any bleeding or interaction between the paints. This also gives you a chance that if you have a run, you can sand it out and as long as the color layer is still in tact, you can continue on with the next layer.

If you have more questions about painting, just ask. I will pass on what I know. The thinner that I use for all of the paints is the Dimension 2000 Medium reducer (RD 635 as I recall). This is compatible with all of the paints I use. Follow the recommendation of the local auto parts paint store when choosing paint and thinners.

patrick12 Jun 16, 2009 02:25 PM

Thanks Thermo!!

I do to start it next days, and ask you something then ;)

Is on JTIS no Instruction with Pictures how to remove it?

MattSteele Jun 16, 2009 04:41 PM

Go to your local Schucks, AutoZone, etc. and ask them if they have paints for automotive trim. I found some mat black paint specifically designed for plastic exterior trim at Schucks.

Three things you need to do for a good result:

1. Clean the surface, removing waxes, oils, etc. so the paint will stick. Auto paint stores have special solvents or cleaning/prepping plastic parts, or you can probably use something like a 3M adhesive remover.

2. Prime the surface, with an adhesion promoter like the one Thermo recommends

3. Paint the surface with a compatible paint. If you want basic black, go for trim paint since it's specially designed for this exact application. Here are a couple of examples: http://www.autogeek.net/wufltrpa.html and http://www.autobarn.net/duptp70.html

I've got to paint mine this summer as well.

Thermo Jun 16, 2009 08:18 PM

Patrick, ask away. Like I said, I will pass on what I know. Taking things a bit slower is the better option. Most people mess up the paint by moving too fast. But, more than about 24 hours between paints is just slowing the process.

JimC64 Jun 16, 2009 09:45 PM

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top class assist Thermo:icon_worthy::icon_worthy:

l17led Jun 20, 2009 02:01 PM

Get the car up in the air on axle stands and lie underneath the rear bumper and you will see the plastic screws along the lower edge. remove the screws and pull out the part the screw goes into. (you will understand when you get to it). After that you need to pull the underside down to get your arm in and push the small clips back through the holes they clip into. (on the upper inside of the sensor extension, can be awkward to do).

04Xtype Jun 20, 2009 08:19 PM

Its possible to do without putting on stands to save time, but stands will give you more room to work with. I got mine off with the car on the ground pretty easy. Have to pull fairly hard to get the clips out


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