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gupdah 02-09-2009 01:46 PM

Urgent Advice Needed
 
Hey Guys.

My 2003 Jaguar X-type makes an odd sound whenever i made any sort of right turns, and right turns only. Its like an "errrrrrrrr" sound, and i know for a fact its not the tires skiding. I was reading around and I THINK it might be the brushings. How exactly would i go about fixing this problem, is it a do it your self project? How much should I be expecting to get billed from the mechanic? I am willing to do anything to help you guys diagnose my problem. Even if i am slightly swaying right it makes the sound. So i think that should narrow down the results.

Saurabh

gupdah 02-09-2009 01:48 PM

I might have ment Bushings. Not sure what exactly they are called...

carelm 02-09-2009 02:11 PM

It could be a front wheel bearing or axle problem. You could probably re-do the front wheel bearings yourself, but an axle would best be left up to a professional mechanic. I would have it checked out ASAP. Assuming the worst, my guess is upwards of $700 parts and labor.

Mike

gupdah 02-09-2009 02:20 PM

it sounds like its comming from the rear. It only occurs when i take right turns. Is this something that would be covered under warranty? should i take it to a local garage first like a gas station, before i take it to a jaguar mechanic?

The Chris X 02-09-2009 02:51 PM

If you have a warranty, use it.

gupdah 02-09-2009 04:54 PM

I will deffinately use the warranty, but i want to make sure this problem is not a ware and tare item. The only jaguar mechanic i know is about 1:30 from where i live, i will probably call him up, but that is my last resort. If this is an easy DYI job, i rather take that route. Or if its a problem my local gas station can fix for a cheap cost, i am fine with that too.

carelm 02-09-2009 05:23 PM

Gupdah,

If you can't take it a Jaguar dealer, then I recommend going a foreign car specialist. You should check with your warranty company first to see what repair shops are approved for work. Grinding noises are almost never wear and tear and are usually serious. I would caution against going to your neighborhood service station though.

Mike

Real_Tech 02-09-2009 06:03 PM

Sounds like a wheel bearing to me(internet diagnosis) or cupped tires. The tires are easy to check. Run your hand over the inner tread and if it feels like the skin of a crocodile the tires could cause the noise. If you're sure the noise is from the rear they are easy to change as it comes as a complete hub and bearing assembly that is simply held on with 4 torx bolts. Bearing noises are notoriously misdiagnosed. You wouldn't believe the number I've seen replaced that were actually caused by another bearing. I always listen to the bearings with a stethoscope to make sure the one I replace is the one making noise.

gupdah 02-09-2009 10:48 PM

Well its not a grinding noice, its more of a skreech, but its more deep. Can these bearing be bought at the local auto part store? Also should i take it to a gas station and have the mechanic there diagnose the problem?

thanks for the reply guys.

The Chris X 02-10-2009 10:22 AM

I would avoid a "gas station" route of diagnosis. If it is not the tires and you are not sure, like you said, call the dealer. No sense paying someone to check it out if it could be under warranty anyway. Just my $.02.

gupdah 02-10-2009 02:01 PM

Well I am probably going to take it to a mechanic this weekend, but i have made an observation. Today is much warmer, so i decided that i would get under the car and narrow down the results because of the great weather, we have around 60 degrees compared to 30 degrees. Before I actually jacked the car up, i took it for a test run to see where the main sound was coming from, and turns out i didnt hear a squeek. I managed to get the car to sweek after making a sharp turn in the colisack, but other than that, the turns were the car sweeks is no more in the hotter weather. So i am guessing its not the actual bearing? Its the lubrication?

Thanks for all your thoughful replies guys.

The Chris X 02-10-2009 02:17 PM

Lubricate your parking brake bushing. Behind the right rear wheel. The cable passes through a rubber bushing, spray it with lithium grease.

gupdah 02-10-2009 07:24 PM

I jumped the gun and lifted the rear wheel and sprayed it all with WD-40. Where can i get lithium grease? I doubt the WD-40 will do any harm, but I doubt it will be effective as lithium grease.

jag-ooo-r 02-10-2009 08:26 PM

usually a 'gas station' will diagnose for free. (At least, they have in my expeience)
Ask them! If they're willing to take a look and diagnose it, and you are honestly willing to give them the work (if it's affordable and not under warranty) then I don;t see the problem with using that resource.
I'd agree though that a foreign car specialist is a better bet.

As for diagnosing it here online... that requires some knowledge from you too, not just willy-nilly guess-work. Not to be rude, Gudpah, we all have our strengths, but you've gone from being ready to plunk down cash for "Brushings" to being ready to do wheel bearings in the blink of an eye. The parts are not free, and the labor involved in either of these is substantial enough that I wouldn't want to see you replace somethging on a guess, only to find it didn;t solve your problem.

gupdah 02-11-2009 06:04 AM

Well I do have a warranty on the car, but I rather try to fix the small problem myself, if it is a small problem, before actually dealing with the mechanic and warranty company. Today it is pretty cold outside, and i greesed it up yesterday. So if i still hear the squeeks, off to the mechanic it is..

Thanks guys for your thoughtful replys. I really appreciate it

Saurabh

The Chris X 02-11-2009 07:37 AM

Lithium grease can be purchased at any auto parts store, or even most big box retailers. Comes in a spray can, sometimes referred to as "white lithium grease".....only spray around the cable and bushing, work it in with your hands. Be very careful not to get it on anything near the brake rotor/caliper/pads.

KUrtyMAc 02-11-2009 02:19 PM

Hey one of my dads jags had that problem. It could be the brushings, but in his case they actually slipped up a little to high and need to be adjusted. i secound the watch out for gas station diagnosis, ours around here wanted 600 to fix it and all he needed to do was slide it. But then his other jag had the same problem which was an x-type and he need new brushings and roaders.

jag-ooo-r 02-11-2009 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by KUrtyMAc (Post 94986)
Hey one of my dads jags had that problem. It could be the brushings, but in his case they actually slipped up a little to high and need to be adjusted. i secound the watch out for gas station diagnosis, ours around here wanted 600 to fix it and all he needed to do was slide it. But then his other jag had the same problem which was an x-type and he need new brushings and roaders.


okay.. I'll bite:
"brushings and roaders"???
WTF? :confused:

i've been working on and racing cars for a VERY long time (3 decades!) And I've never heard of 'brushings and roaders'.
somebody help me out.

gupdah 02-11-2009 05:22 PM

by roaders, i think he ment Roters. And Brushings, I myself do not know exactly what that is, but i read somewhere it could be the problem. Brushings, Bearings, Bushings. This whole process is confusing

jag-ooo-r 02-11-2009 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by gupdah (Post 95053)
by roaders, i think he ment Roters. And Brushings, I myself do not know exactly what that is, but i read somewhere it could be the problem. Brushings, Bearings, Bushings. This whole process is confusing

oooohhhhh.... I get it..... I just needed to say it out loud. "roaders" = "rotors".and gudpah, i'd call your last statement above proof of my point that this might not be a great way for you to diagnose your car. if you are unertain what the difference is between a bearing and a bushing (and I have no idea what a "brushing" is), then you really need to get some help with the diagnosis AND the repair... in my opinion.(wirelessly)


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