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Old 07-21-2017, 10:52 AM
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Hey guys, just joined the forum and am trying to get this forum more active in aftermarket modifications, so I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents as to what I have done so far.

I have a 2017 XE 35t and I recently went to a well-known shop in my area who specializes in exhaust systems. It was actually their first time working on an XE, but they were still great. Anyways, I originally went with the Magnaflow Magnapak mufflers. They sounded great up to about 2000 rpms. They also sounded great when gunning it. However, between 2000-3000 rpms, the drone was unbearable (at least for me) --- I was playing music just to drown out the drone. This range of rpms is just too hard to avoid when you're just cruising. Overall, I'd say the volume of the exhaust increased by about 150%, which is a lot.

So, I went back to the shop and explained why I did not like them. They were great and charged me no labor to swap out the Magnapak for Borla mufflers (I just paid the difference between the two). The other option I had was to go with the original Magnaflows which are a bit quieter than the Magnapaks, but would still have a drone.

I am so happy I went with the Borla mufflers. I was told that Borla makes the quietest, but one of the highest quality, aftermarket mufflers. Don't let this deter you unless you are really looking for a loud exhaust. I'd say that the Borla's increased overall volume by about 50%, which I acknowledge is not that loud for an aftermarket exhaust. However, I wanted to maintain the luxuriousness of the vehicle and the Magnapak took that away.

What I really love about the Borla mufflers is that the note of the exhaust did not change much. It just accentuated the 3.0 SC sound and made it more enjoyable to drive. I get looks all the time when driving through parking lots and drive-throughs because it sounds so clean and has the right amount of noise for a sport saloon. There is little-to-no "raspiness" to the sound of the exhaust, which I know some people don't like --- pretty much none at all until you gun it. There is also very limited popping when letting off the throttle (there is some but at a very low volume --- hard to hear unless windows are down and cabin is quiet). I'd also like to note that, while I have no dyno or anything to back me up, it seems like I have better throttle response in 1/2/3 gear since the Borla's were put on. And with the Magnapak on there, it seemed like the car became a little sluggish in those same gears.

I think my next step will be to remove the small center resonator and replace it with an x-pipe. The shop told me this will slightly increase overall volume and add the popping/raspiness effect, but not by much. They explained to me that the two large resonators located more towards the back of the vehicle do most of the work, so removing the smaller center resonator is not going to be a drastic change.

I have to get it confirmed, but I also read in another thread somewhere that the smaller center resonator is a bolt on, so going back to factory if unpleasant with the result is not that big of a deal.

I am going to upload a sound clip eventually. Definitely before I get the x-pipe installed as well as after. I am currently in final exams for summer classes so it will probably be next week, but I hope this helps some people out there who are looking to get a bit more out of this vehicle! I'd also love to hear what some other forum members have done or are thinking about doing as there is just not much info out there on the XE.
 
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Old 07-25-2017, 07:03 AM
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The only way I would go on the XE is to use the Varex X-FORCE mufflers. You have full control all the time of volume and drone preferences.

I'd love to use Spires, Quick Silver, VAP, etc but I can't deal with that volume and drone all the time.
 
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:18 AM
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Spires told me if you replace both the mufflers and go to x-pipe, the install is quite difficult to prevent drone. If you replace either piece you are fine. I believe Spires came out with a x pipe for the XE for around $800-900.

If I had my choice, I would only do the x pipe and the Jaguar mufflers are highly engineered.
 
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Old 07-25-2017, 04:32 PM
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Taking out the resonators removes the throbbiness of the exhaust note, and you get a more hollow sound, if that makes sense. I did it in my 5.0 XKR and it improved the sound but that was a raspy note to start with and it had the active exhaust. I think in (say) the 4.2 which has a lovely throbby resonance, it would potentially ruin the sound.

I'm not sure how it would go in the XE, though I think that the stock F Type V6 exhaust might already have an X pipe in it (atleast the V8 does), and it sounds awesome.
 
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:25 PM
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Xcentric does very good exhausts for 3.0SC. They are based in France though and do not sell parts of the exhaust system.

They quoted me 3K shipper for XE exhaust system.

It looks like there is that trade off with a drone. You can get a loud system but with more drone or keep it stock. I am sure sooner or later, they will find a way to get rid of it. Active exhaust sure would be nice but probably too expensive.

Those Borla's do sound good. How much they run for?

Thanks for the detailed info BTW
 
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I would go for the x pipe first from Spires and if that is not enough, go for the mufflers. Keep in mind it can take 1k miles for them to break in.
 
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Just keep in mind that you have a 90 degree V6 engine. It's never going to sing like an Italian car.
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Originally Posted by pab
Just keep in mind that you have a 90 degree V6 engine. It's never going to sing like an Italian car.
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Isn't that what Alfa and Maserati use; 90 degree V6?
 
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>Isn't that what Alfa and Maserati use; 90 degree V6?

Yuk, why on earth would the do that?
 
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Sit tight guys. We designed a special system for the FPace with a double pass-through which really scaled down the drone a huge amount while still allowing some volume.

On our initial investigation it appears the XE and FPace platforms are the same and that the exhaust fitment is as well.

VelocityAP F-Pace Exhaust Development - Page 14 - Jaguar F-Pace Forum

We are just doing some last manufacturing testing of full mandrel bent sections to reduce cost but will be launching this soon.
 
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Also FYI, there's a couple of different reviews in there 'Touring' is the quieter one and 'Sport' is the louder.
 
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Could you share the details of which borla exhaust you used? I've had the 35t for over a year now and want to make it sound a little better.
 
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Originally Posted by endlessmaze21
Could you share the details of which borla exhaust you used? I've had the 35t for over a year now and want to make it sound a little better.
We've got a great option for you, if you're interested:

Jaguar F-Pace Sport Exhaust Touring Sound Level


 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
We've got a great option for you, if you're interested:

Jaguar F-Pace Sport Exhaust Touring Sound Level

That looks like a good one and reducing drone has to be a top design element for any these exhausts. Well done.
 
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the VAP one is awesome, much more aggressive than stock. And the tips look way better.
you can hear it here:


these were taken right after getting it installed back in March
 
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What is the OD of the tips on the VAP system?
 
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What is the OD of the tips on the VAP system?
about 10cm
 
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What is the OD of the tips on the VAP system?
3.5"
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
3.5"

Thanks! And what is the OD of the OEM exhaust tubing?
 
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Thanks! And what is the OD of the OEM exhaust tubing?
I believe it is 2.5". Why are you interested?
 
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