2008-2011 B&W Surround Retrofit from Base audio
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Finished this off yesterday. 2011MY XF which had the Base audio from the factory, now has the full Bowers & Wilkins Surround system.
There are three different audio systems in the Pre-Facelift XF from 2008 to 2011 Base Audio; 80W, 8-speakers, no sub Premium Audio; 320W, 9-speakers incl sub Bowers & Wilkins Surround Sound; 440W, 14-speaker surround sound with subwoofer (actually that's what it says in the brochure, in the technical documents it's a 650W system) The B&W system has the yellow Kevlar cone speakers. Parts used; All door speakers replaced with original B&W's Additional 2 midrange speakers added to front doors, original B&W's Factory sub mounted under the spare wheel. Parcel shelf changed to one from B&W car, with 2x surround speakers, and sunblind Center dash speaker added, original B&W Added the surround amplifier (base system has no external amp) Changed head unit from single-disc non-MP3, to 6-disc with MP3 Also added DAB+ digital radio at the same time. The Base audio cars are actually pre-wired for the Surround system, except for the center dash speaker, and the parcel shelf. The parcel shelf loom just plugs in, the loom for the dash speaker needs to me made/added. Pictures; Attachment 144030 Attachment 144031 Amp fitted. Attachment 144032 Attachment 144033 Attachment 144034 Attachment 144035 Attachment 144036 Attachment 144037 Installing loom for center speaker, and center speaker itself. Attachment 144038 Other speakers changed to the B&W yellow Kevlar ones. |
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Head unit removed. Attachment 144040 You can see the difference between the Surround unit (above) and Base unit (below). Attachment 144041 Attachment 144042 Attachment 144043 Wiring harness' already there. Attachment 144044 Had to make an extension piece for the MOST fiber optic network to add the amplifier |
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Once all the hardware side was done, make some changes in the Car Configuration File to activate the Surround functions.
Attachment 144045 This was the Audio options with the Base system. And then with the B&W Surround Attachment 144046 Attachment 144047 Attachment 144048 Attachment 144049 Attachment 144050 Nice new screensaver as well. Attachment 144051 And the new screen with the DAB+ functions as well. Sounds a million bucks compared to the Base system, really impressed. |
The next step is to ditch the stock sub and you'll really be happy.
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Well it's not my car, I just did the work on it. The owner is happy with the result and doesn't want any aftermarket stuff in it, hence going down the "factory retrofit" route.
Compared to the crappy 80W Base system, the B&W is already a huge step up. |
whats a good replacement for the stock sub? im getting annoyed of mine
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Cambo, the B&W system is good enough that I would never thing about an upgrade.
Carzaddict, literally anything would be an upgrade, but depending on the amount of bass impact you are looking for, and whether you were concerned about losing trunk space, you could remove the stock sub and have a fiberglass box built into the extra space and the spare tire. Or if you don't mind taking out the spare tire, look at my thread about building a sub enclosure in the spare tire well. Otherwised losing trunk space, determine what your budget is and let me know what you listen to and how loud you want it and I can give you some options that will work. |
Originally Posted by Cambo
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Well it's not my car, I just did the work on it. The owner is happy with the result and doesn't want any aftermarket stuff in it, hence going down the "factory retrofit" route.
Compared to the crappy 80W Base system, the B&W is already a huge step up. |
Hi Cambo
I am planning to retrofit the B&W system in my 2009 X250 Jaguar XF. It has got the basic sound system and 6 CD changer with MP3 I have the following questions 1) Is my head unit with 6cd changer compatible with the upgrade 2) Does it involve major wiring installation?? I have sourced all the kit needed for the upgrade but I would appreciate some advise on the head unit.Can you give me the exact part number of the unit you changed over to in your upgrade please?? |
Great job! Just have a quick question. I have a ‘11 XFR with the B&W system. I believe one of speakers in the parcel sled isn’t blown. Would you happen to know the part number off hand?
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Hi
it will be 8x23-18808-BA |
Originally Posted by tomwins76
(Post 1813206)
Hi Cambo
I am planning to retrofit the B&W system in my 2009 X250 Jaguar XF. It has got the basic sound system and 6 CD changer with MP3 I have the following questions 1) Is my head unit with 6cd changer compatible with the upgrade 2) Does it involve major wiring installation?? I have sourced all the kit needed for the upgrade but I would appreciate some advise on the head unit.Can you give me the exact part number of the unit you changed over to in your upgrade please?? The head units used in the Base system without external amplifier are different to the ones that are with the external amp i.e. the B&W system. You can see the pic of both units next to each other, they aren't the same, they also have different software in them. You cannot run an external amplifier from a Base head unit. Part number for the head unit to get is 7G9N-18C815-TB, that is the newest version, it's also used in the XK and the Freelander 2. You will need to make up the wiring loom for the center speaker, as this is missing. You will also need to extend the fibre optic loop to include the amp. The rest is just a matter of plugging and unplugging. |
Originally Posted by tomwins76
(Post 1813238)
Hi
it will be 8x23-18808-BA Thank you |
First, I have good hearing.
Second, I have 2 of the 2011 XF's. One with B&W and one with the base sound system. I have had them for years. Third, I can barely tell any difference between the two systems, and I wish I hadn't paid the extra money for the B&W system on the white one. |
Originally Posted by lotusespritse
(Post 1813471)
First, I have good hearing.
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Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 1813267)
This retrofit is not possible unless you have access to an unlocked SDD diagnostic system, once you fit the amp and head unit there will be no sound until the Car Configuration File is updated. I know I guy in Warwickshire who can do this if you haven't got that side of things already sorted.
The head units used in the Base system without external amplifier are different to the ones that are with the external amp i.e. the B&W system. You can see the pic of both units next to each other, they aren't the same, they also have different software in them. You cannot run an external amplifier from a Base head unit. Part number for the head unit to get is 7G9N-18C815-TB, that is the newest version, it's also used in the XK and the Freelander 2. You will need to make up the wiring loom for the center speaker, as this is missing. You will also need to extend the fibre optic loop to include the amp. The rest is just a matter of plugging and unplugging. |
Originally Posted by lotusespritse
(Post 1813471)
First, I have good hearing.
Second, I have 2 of the 2011 XF's. One with B&W and one with the base sound system. I have had them for years. Third, I can barely tell any difference between the two systems, and I wish I hadn't paid the extra money for the B&W system on the white one. I could spot the difference between my previous Mercedes and the current base system in my XF. Looking forward to get rid of it!! |
Originally Posted by lotusespritse
(Post 1813471)
First, I have good hearing.
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Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 1813489)
You should probably have it checked.
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Originally Posted by Swimref
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I am sure that you do, in terms of not suffering from deafness. You clearly do not have the so-called "golden ear" of an audiophile, however. To an audiophile, there is a night and day difference using good source material between a standard car audio system and something as acoustically excellent as the B & W system around which the car's interior was actually designed.
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