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VetteOwner 05-13-2011 11:09 PM

Complete listing of changes for MY12 with pic FAQ
 
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This was released to the US dealers and breaks down all the changes to the 4 different XF models for MY2012: Attachment 10336

Cadillac 05-14-2011 04:08 AM

Thanks, I am adding this link into the FAQs

chairman25 05-14-2011 08:33 AM

Thanks for all of the information. It seems that most of the changes are for the better. When some manufacturers update "refresh" they make a mess of things, not here. But, I am stating the obvious. When do these cars hit the showrooms? Where in Maryland are you?

Saahov 05-14-2011 04:20 PM

the server does not allow me to view the PDF. Is there another way to check out the changes to 2012 XF?
Thanks!

StealthPilot 05-14-2011 07:53 PM

When will they release these cars in the US?

Any sense on what I should expect to pay for a well equipped supercharged or XFR?

StealthPilot 05-14-2011 07:59 PM

Also I didnt see any references to the new 8 speed ZF automatic transmission. Will those be available on the 2012 models?

VetteOwner 05-14-2011 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by chairman25 (Post 350408)
Thanks for all of the information. It seems that most of the changes are for the better. When some manufacturers update "refresh" they make a mess of things, not here. But, I am stating the obvious. When do these cars hit the showrooms? Where in Maryland are you?

Chairman, located next to Indian Springs CC (used to be) btwn Wheaton and Aspin Hill, Mont. Co.
As to release, seems no one will/can say, sometime btwn end of June to late August it appears. Mike

VetteOwner 05-14-2011 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by StealthPilot (Post 350675)
Also I didn't see any references to the new 8 speed ZF automatic transmission. Will those be available on the 2012 models?

I noticed that too. I see at the end that additional info pertaining to specs, standard and optional equipment is listed in a "XF ordering guide"; don't have it but that'd be nice to get a hold of.

VetteOwner 05-15-2011 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by Saahov (Post 350605)
the server does not allow me to view the PDF. Is there another way to check out the changes to 2012 XF?
Thanks!

pm me a fax # or email you a scan if I can.

Saahov 05-15-2011 05:14 PM

heh, apparently I can't send you a PM either.

***EDIT***

As it turned out, I just needed 10 posts before it unlocked some priliveges. So, I was able to download the PDF - thank you very much for posting!

Kilgore Trout 05-27-2011 06:07 PM

Thanks! Certainly seems like a good idea to wait for the 2012 models. Any word on real time traffic information being available?

Need4Spd 05-27-2011 11:04 PM

I actually prefer the look of the current headlights. They give the car more character - Jaguar character. The new lights look more generic, almost could be an Audi. Everything else is better on the 2012, as it should be, though there is nothing that I "have to have". Well, maybe the additional hard switches for the nav and phone. :icon_shrug:

Kilgore Trout 05-27-2011 11:07 PM

I do agree about the headlights, specifically, I like the little circular line in the middle...a nice arc that gives it a little something...

Saahov 05-29-2011 01:33 AM

By no means the 2012 XF is ugly, but I do prefer the design of the 1st-gen one. While the headlights are almost a non-issue for me (although, arguably the orignal's are better), the rear facelift (should we call it a butt-lift) is a total failure. I don't like the fake diffusers (XF S/C and XFR) and the lights seem too crowded somehow.

But worst of all is the new XFR...why, would they ruin a super-looking sports sedan like that? I mean the front end looks Korean car-like! The original XFR is probably my dream Jaguar at this point and I was really disappointed with the redesign.

However, when you compare XF with the competition, it still stands head and shoulders above the rest, in terms of design, inside and out. I just wish they hadn't messed with the good thing so much, you know?!

Need4Spd 05-29-2011 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Saahov (Post 357516)
... But worst of all is the new XFR...why, would they ruin a super-looking sports sedan like that? I mean the front end looks Korean car-like! The original XFR is probably my dream Jaguar at this point and I was really disappointed with the redesign.

I also prefer the front end treatment of the current car, but saying they "ruined" the 2012 XFR may be a bit harsh. I was thinking that the Korean car comment was also a bit unfair. The Korean car makers have made great strides in quality, styling and performance; so much so that I regard them as the Lexus of the new millenium.

Take a look at the current Kia Optima. I happen to think that for its price bracket, it may be the best among its competitors.

http://www.havalgroup.net/hm/wp-cont...llpaper_01.jpg

I can see what you mean, however, when you look at the 2012 XFR's new headlights.

http://www.cardotcom.com/photos/cars...r-xfr-01-m.jpg

While we're at it, look at the Hyundai compared to the Mercedes.

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/hy..._32910_717.jpg

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...s-leaked_1.jpg

Need4Spd 05-29-2011 11:08 AM

BTW, visual comparison of front ends, 2012 vs. 2011.

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content...mages_main.jpg

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...vered-7484.jpg

VetteOwner 05-29-2011 06:08 PM

The thing I like most about the XFRs new front end is the more vertical treatment and slight enlargement of the radiator grill; when viewed at side profile, I think its more appealing, aggressive, than prior years.

Need4Spd 05-29-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by VetteOwner (Post 357757)
The thing I like most about the XFRs new front end is the more vertical treatment and slight enlargement of the radiator grill; when viewed at side profile, I think its more appealing, aggressive, than prior years.

Yeah, but I'll bet the 2012 doesn't have the option pictured here!

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...trols-7868.jpg

In case you want to make your own (copy and then reduce in size, then print onto adhesive paper or use plain paper and rubber cement):

http://www.radesignz.com/graphics/misc/eject600dpi.jpg

Redjaguar100 05-31-2011 04:10 PM

Thats it.. Can't take it anymore... Gone to get a 2012 in Kayanite Blue, Then I will do a face to face comparison with Need4Spd... LOL... All joke aside, I think we are just locked into the looks of the present car. As I remember, There where alot of Jag owners who really didn't care for the looks XF when it first shown in 2007. The problem which almost killed Jag is that they never changed over the years. Change can be good.. BTW, I'm not a fan of the new butt lift either but that IMHO...
I to may change my mind once I see it in the show room..

Need4Spd 05-31-2011 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Redjaguar100 (Post 358716)
Thats it.. Can't take it anymore... Gone to get a 2012 in Kayanite Blue, Then I will do a face to face comparison with Need4Spd... LOL... All joke aside, I think we are just locked into the looks of the present car. As I remember, There where alot of Jag owners who really didn't care for the looks XF when it first shown in 2007. The problem which almost killed Jag is that they never changed over the years. Change can be good.. BTW, I'm not a fan of the new butt lift either but that IMHO...
I to may change my mind once I see it in the show room..

No doubt you get yours in Kyanite Blue and I'll wish I waited! I think it's hard to go wrong with either model year, for different reasons. I just hope they continue that color. I'm biased but do think it's one of the better looking shades of blue in the industry, and it being a metallic, shows off the lines/curves of the car nicely. That metallic red is also gorgeous.


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