If your dash is Bubbling, and your out of warranty?
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#63
The thought definitely crossed my mind but dash pad that I bought has already survived 6 or 7 Australian summers without showing ill effects. I really gave it some close scrutiny and the glue is still very solid, there's no sign of shrinking or bubbling and the leather is still really soft.
Because it's the bonded leather. I'm wondering if these suffer the same demise as the hide leather types? In comparison, my old dashboard leather is extremely hard and lacks flexibility. I peeled back a section of the leather from the speaker area to assess it's condition and I don't think it could be used again and re glued etc.
Based on the above, in the end I decided not to staple it and I've ordered a protective mat to cover the dashboard plus the OEM custom fit windscreen shade to help extend the life of my replacement.
The job took me around 5 hours but if I ever had to do another, it would be about half of that because I now know all of the methods to pull things apart in the correct order. The only thing that didn't survive was my speaker grille which exploded into a million fragments when I tried to remove it. From what I understand, this is fairly common problem too.
The small plastic clips also snapped of the windscreen vents. Some self adhesive foam strip cured this issue after all remaining clips were deliberately removed. I didn't want them to break off during re installation or at any time in the future because they would end up rattling around in the air ducts.
Because it's the bonded leather. I'm wondering if these suffer the same demise as the hide leather types? In comparison, my old dashboard leather is extremely hard and lacks flexibility. I peeled back a section of the leather from the speaker area to assess it's condition and I don't think it could be used again and re glued etc.
Based on the above, in the end I decided not to staple it and I've ordered a protective mat to cover the dashboard plus the OEM custom fit windscreen shade to help extend the life of my replacement.
The job took me around 5 hours but if I ever had to do another, it would be about half of that because I now know all of the methods to pull things apart in the correct order. The only thing that didn't survive was my speaker grille which exploded into a million fragments when I tried to remove it. From what I understand, this is fairly common problem too.
The small plastic clips also snapped of the windscreen vents. Some self adhesive foam strip cured this issue after all remaining clips were deliberately removed. I didn't want them to break off during re installation or at any time in the future because they would end up rattling around in the air ducts.
Last edited by EXEF; 11-11-2017 at 07:07 PM.
#64
Just a quick update.
The vents are repaired and fit perfectly back in place. I gave them and the dashboard speaker grille that I found at the dismantlers yard 3 coats of matte black paint to help stop the deterioration caused by exposure to the sun.
Pictures below explain the fitment of sticky foam rubber instead of the brittle clips.
The vents are repaired and fit perfectly back in place. I gave them and the dashboard speaker grille that I found at the dismantlers yard 3 coats of matte black paint to help stop the deterioration caused by exposure to the sun.
Pictures below explain the fitment of sticky foam rubber instead of the brittle clips.
#65
Jaguar NA's miserable response to bubbling dash on 2011 XF
I noticed the bubbling dash on my 2011 XF in 2016, within its 5-year warranty but beyond the 50,000 warranty. I talked with the Jaguar North America rep (800-452-4827) about five times over a month but he always moronically read me a canned response that my concern was being considered. In the end he offered 25% discount on $3000 replacement, so I declined to pay $2250 to correct an obvious design defect.
Since then, the dash has pulled away from the windshield and the defect completely ruins the car.
I've been posting my displeasure on every site I find, writing to managers of dealerships all over the US, and telling everyone I can. I hope Jaguar has lost at least a few buyers due to my efforts. I'm going to call Jag NA once more and try again. A class action lawsuit would be nice.
TKnock
Since then, the dash has pulled away from the windshield and the defect completely ruins the car.
I've been posting my displeasure on every site I find, writing to managers of dealerships all over the US, and telling everyone I can. I hope Jaguar has lost at least a few buyers due to my efforts. I'm going to call Jag NA once more and try again. A class action lawsuit would be nice.
TKnock
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Dash Bubbling.
If your dash is bubbling, and your out of warranty, their is another option other than the $$$$ and dash removal the dealer wants. One of my local HIGH LINE used car dealer friends gets all his XF dashes redone by a guy who removes the front glass. It takes 2 days for him to remove the glass, stretch glue and then clip/staple the dash leather so it can NEVER shrink and wrinkle again for hundreds instead of thousands.
So if your in So Cali and need more info PM me, if your out of so cal check with some of your local High line used car dealers, My contact says he has never sold an XF that 'didn't need a dash repair' (Its a common XF problem) so this method is probably out there already.
So if your in So Cali and need more info PM me, if your out of so cal check with some of your local High line used car dealers, My contact says he has never sold an XF that 'didn't need a dash repair' (Its a common XF problem) so this method is probably out there already.
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I noticed the bubbling dash on my 2011 XF in 2016, within its 5-year warranty but beyond the 50,000 warranty. I talked with the Jaguar North America rep (800-452-4827) about five times over a month but he always moronically read me a canned response that my concern was being considered. In the end he offered 25% discount on $3000 replacement, so I declined to pay $2250 to correct an obvious design defect.
Since then, the dash has pulled away from the windshield and the defect completely ruins the car.
I've been posting my displeasure on every site I find, writing to managers of dealerships all over the US, and telling everyone I can. I hope Jaguar has lost at least a few buyers due to my efforts. I'm going to call Jag NA once more and try again. A class action lawsuit would be nice
TKnock
Since then, the dash has pulled away from the windshield and the defect completely ruins the car.
I've been posting my displeasure on every site I find, writing to managers of dealerships all over the US, and telling everyone I can. I hope Jaguar has lost at least a few buyers due to my efforts. I'm going to call Jag NA once more and try again. A class action lawsuit would be nice
TKnock
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It is true per my tech at Alvarez Jaguar and the manual. Jag has given techs a work around to removing the dash, too many dash replacements at $3k when removing old dashes. Your did techs just did it the faster way, you kept your old dash, my techs did it the manuals way, I got a new dash. Stop your trolling lotus.
#74
It is true per my tech at Alvarez Jaguar and the manual. Jag has given techs a work around to removing the dash, too many dash replacements at $3k when removing old dashes. Your did techs just did it the faster way, you kept your old dash, my techs did it the manuals way, I got a new dash. Stop your trolling lotus.
Remember when you posted that pic with someone else's Lambo and you pretended it was yours?? That was funny!
Last edited by lotusespritse; 03-11-2018 at 01:55 PM.
#75
Oh and do you mean when I posted different pictures of my nephews Lambo vs the same grainy old single picture you've posted to at least 2 sites, at 2 different times claiming your ah "taking it on a drive today"? Yep it you are funny...
But here's a RECENT picture of that Lambo Now wrapped in flat white (Crazy kid with all that NBA $$$)
AND I it washed and gassed PCH here I come! As I do drive it from time to time, but I'd never own one because it's not me.
Oh and my nephew is Jordan Clarkson #8 on the Cav's.
Please post a RECENT! picture of you and your Lambo for us lotus? No big deal since all cell phones have a camera right? BUT REMEMBER GOOGLE CAN SEARCH PICTURES...LOL
Last edited by Bigg Will; 03-12-2018 at 10:10 AM.
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PICTURES OF YOU AND YOURS PLEASE, BUT I'LL BE GOOGLING THEM...LOL FEEL FREE TO GOOGLE MINE As they are mine..lol
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I thought Bigg Will wasn't going to stand behind his lies.
So I made a pic for him just now.
And I am sorry, Bigg Will, that your cousin 10 times removed can't afford anything but the baby Lambo. V12 is the only Lambo! Anything else is just a warmed over Audi. Remember, when the doors go up, the panties come down! And the doors don't go up in the Huracan. But at least he lets you wash his car. LMFAO!
So I made a pic for him just now.
And I am sorry, Bigg Will, that your cousin 10 times removed can't afford anything but the baby Lambo. V12 is the only Lambo! Anything else is just a warmed over Audi. Remember, when the doors go up, the panties come down! And the doors don't go up in the Huracan. But at least he lets you wash his car. LMFAO!
Last edited by lotusespritse; 03-12-2018 at 06:55 PM.
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I thought Bigg Will wasn't going to stand behind his lies.
So I made a pic for him just now.
And I am sorry, Bigg Will, that your cousin 10 times removed can't afford anything but the baby Lambo. V12 is the only Lambo! Anything else is just a warmed over Audi. Remember, when the doors go up, the panties come down! And the doors don't go up in the Huracan. But at least he lets you wash his car. LMFAO!
So I made a pic for him just now.
And I am sorry, Bigg Will, that your cousin 10 times removed can't afford anything but the baby Lambo. V12 is the only Lambo! Anything else is just a warmed over Audi. Remember, when the doors go up, the panties come down! And the doors don't go up in the Huracan. But at least he lets you wash his car. LMFAO!
So lets just cut and past the same response from your last TROLLING RANT
then maybe you'll JUST LEAVE MY DAM THREAD!
WOW, why do YOUR pictures NEVER seem to have YOU in them, you know like the ones I took before, I mean that's a real nice you sneaking the paper on the hood of that garaged Lambo, but where the selfie bro.
And as for my nephew the as you say "bench warmer" he makes over $1.5mil a year on just his shoe contract alone and owns that
2015 Huracan
a 2017 RR Drophead coupe
a 2016 ZL1 Camaro
and a 2016 Jeep Wrangler..
And unlike your Dickless - Posti Vac - blow up girl using self, neither he nor I need a car to drop the panties .. lol
So lotustroll get your head out everyone's butt looking for dumb stuff to B & M about. I never have a problem admitting a mistake but unlike your blow up doll, I talk back.
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