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Bigg Will 11-02-2015 02:24 AM

XFR Charge pump Change/Upgrade
 
If I'm quiet, I'm up to something..LOL
Well after seeing the Russians do this mod and given the fact Higgins has 65k on him, I decided its now a good time to do this pump change on my terms rather than on its terms. Plus it was time for my yearly coolant change, and my oil change (Gonna be doing changing the oil every 3 to 4k mi. and the filter every other oil change from now on, with Wal Mart Synthetic..lol let the comments begin!)
Tools, Small size torx sockets, electrical wire prep tools, nippers, spring hose clamp pliers, coolant. ETC..
About a days work. Not a hard job, just involved and a bit messy. Removing and installing that front splash shield was the cusser!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...c0d3f97019.jpg
Bosch 010 Pump, bought off Ebay for $115. Its basically the factory M-B AMG replacement pump used on the M113K 5.5L supercharged engine


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fe2678ca5d.jpg
The M-B connector.On the Bosch pump the + and- leads are marked, the pos blade needs to be connected to the cars wire with red stripe.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fe6ff11180.jpg
Connector and wire PN.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...25c1898161.jpg
Old pump next to the new pump, Old pump removal is fairly easy. 1 8mm bolt on the top, remove 2 hoses. Pump electrical wire built up too. all of the old pumps rubber will transfer over to the new pump. be sure to check the clock position of all the rubber hoses and mounts on the old pump for the move to the new pump.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...b2c7bb8484.jpg
This is the pumps lower rubber suspension, I had too trim with nippers to fit it over the hose and on the new pump.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...833dc25e95.jpg
This is the Gates heat shrink hose clamp I used to give me clearance to use the old pumps lower rubber suspension. I've never had one leak, they re tighten each time they heat up and can be trimmed or cut with a soldering iron, to fit in weird, tight places or around odd shapes.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...43ffa7f6bc.jpg
New pump ready for install next to new pump. Be sure and bucket prime the new pump right before you install it.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...91933d574d.jpg
New pump.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...5140753702.jpg
New pump in car.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...a9a3a191a6.jpg
New pump in car.

n8ertot 11-02-2015 09:38 AM

Thanks for the info. I've never seen that powergrip clamp before, but it's a perfect solution for my coolant overflow hose. Thanks!

Bigg Will 11-02-2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by n8ertot (Post 1340246)
Thanks for the info. I've never seen that powergrip clamp before, but it's a perfect solution for my coolant overflow hose. Thanks!

I've been using them for years and have NEVER had one leak, and unlike screw clamps, the pressure is equal all the way around the clamp. The only bad thing is you have to cut it off (I melt them off with a soldering iron).

texevora 11-02-2015 10:26 AM

Tried searching but couldn't find an answer... what is this for? Is this a preventative fix to the coolant pump failure that is common on the 5L supercharged V8s?

Bigg Will 11-02-2015 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by texevora (Post 1340288)
Tried searching but couldn't find an answer... what is this for? Is this a preventative fix to the coolant pump failure that is common on the 5L supercharged V8s?

Pretty much.

Blackcoog 11-02-2015 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by texevora (Post 1340288)
Tried searching but couldn't find an answer... what is this for? Is this a preventative fix to the coolant pump failure that is common on the 5L supercharged V8s?

It can also be used on the 4.2L Supercharged cars. It's considered a cooling upgrade. It flows more than the stock unit.

n8ertot 11-02-2015 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will (Post 1340281)
I've been using them for years and have NEVER had one leak, and unlike screw clamps, the pressure is equal all the way around the clamp. The only bad thing is you have to cut it off (I melt them off with a soldering iron).

Pretty cool and looks way better than what the previous owner did. I assume you just use a lighter or a torch?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...28525c29a7.jpg

Bigg Will 11-03-2015 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by n8ertot (Post 1340340)
Pretty cool and looks way better than what the previous owner did. I assume you just use a lighter or a torch?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...28525c29a7.jpg

I actually use a heat gun
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...a34f95c80f.jpg


Used them on all my LS6 hoses. ITS AN LS6, a manual LS1 TB had to be used as the LS6 only used drive by wire.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...67accdf504.jpg
Gates changed the lettering from green to white.

n8ertot 11-03-2015 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will (Post 1340731)
I actually use a heat gun
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...a34f95c80f.jpg


Used them on all my LS6 hoses. ITS AN LS6, a manual LS1 TB had to be used as the LS6 only used drive by wire.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...67accdf504.jpg
Gates changed the lettering from green to white.

Interesting. I would have thought that if a heat gun would work on it, the temp of a coolant hose would be too much for it to remain stable. That would be really easy then.

tbird6 11-03-2015 11:42 AM

What about any performance improvement?
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Bigg Will 11-03-2015 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by n8ertot (Post 1340736)
Interesting. I would have thought that if a heat gun would work on it, the temp of a coolant hose would be too much for it to remain stable. That would be really easy then.

It actually does not take much heat to shrink them, just think electrical heat shrink tubing on steroids..lol

Bigg Will 11-03-2015 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by tbird6 (Post 1341038)
What about any performance improvement?
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IDK, my guess it will let me stay in the boost longer, and bring the temps down faster. I did it more as a preventive measure, they go out with out warning other than the dreaded limp home mode, 60 to 80kmi seems to be the magic number for their life and Jag wants about $400 just for the pump. Its an easy and cheap mod/fix and as I said I was going to be under there anyways, so any performance gains is just gravy.

tbird6 11-04-2015 12:30 PM

Interesting. We don't have a high flow pump for the STR and I have replaced my stock one in the past because it failed. Really did not notice much change.

When it's summer here it's always into heat soak!
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Cambo 11-10-2015 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by tbird6 (Post 1341799)
Interesting. We don't have a high flow pump for the STR and I have replaced my stock one in the past because it failed. Really did not notice much change.

When it's summer here it's always into heat soak!
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I've had this same Bosch 010 pump fitted to my XJR since 2012

tbird6 11-11-2015 12:20 PM

Since you run yours at the track. Did you gain anything with the change?
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Cambo 11-11-2015 02:39 PM

I never ran it at the track with the old pump fitted so I can't give you the answer you're looking for.

bigdhenderson 01-18-2016 02:09 PM

Thanks for this writeup OP, got all the parts I need and will be doing this on my 2010 XKR later this week.

bigdhenderson 01-18-2016 09:25 PM

Also, are the gates hose clamps really necessary? Mine seems like the factory clamps will work just fine

Bigg Will 01-20-2016 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by bigdhenderson (Post 1384876)
Also, are the gates hose clamps really necessary? Mine seems like the factory clamps will work just fine

Well if you want to use the factory hanger the factory clamps are too thick for the 010 pumps outlet.

Gpalace 01-22-2016 07:03 PM

Hey Bigg Will , Guys ...can you provide the part number this? Want to make sure I get the correct pump. I have 50 k so in the spring I want to do water pump as well .THANKS .


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