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Bigg Will 09-12-2017 06:35 AM

XFR Water pump change
 
I decided to break up this post
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ssover-187802/
into the major elements of what I did.
I'm NOT going to get into super specifics like wrench sizes ect. here as that's my disclaimer, if you pull the tools, YOU ARE responsible for what happens.

And always start any water leak search with a pressure test. as it turned out my water pump was not leaking but had a bearing going.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...3fa6fef840.jpg

The pressure tester with adapters can be rented from O'rileys for $225.00, pricey but you'll get it all back.

Bigg Will 09-12-2017 07:03 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...72786f1503.jpg

The AJ133 water pump is not a hard beast to change, but you do need to remove EVERYTHING that will obstruct you from pulling it straight on or off like idler pulleys and move hoses a least out of the way.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...b23123cf92.jpg

In addition but not absolutely necessary I would remove the cross over pipe that bolts to the SC snout and throttle body beneath it, as this will give you more sight behind the pump and on the infamous PLASTIC TUBE!


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...633fb2d311.jpg

BE SURE AND PUT THE NEW PLASTIC TUBE IN THE SAME WAY THE OLD ONE CAME OUT!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...331cf09d55.jpg

The oil cooler that is fed by the water pumps plastic tube (lower center). That pipe sticking up is what the cross over pipe joins when the SC is installed, more on that later.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...4b89b61699.jpg

New tube in. Some general tips, the pipe has two seals that are the same, one seal goes on the nipple on the oil cooler into the tube, and the other seal goes from the tubes nipple into the water pump, you want to lube the nipple the seals go onto, and the hole the nipple and seals go into, but NOT the seal itself. And DO NOT use a silicone based lubricant. Install the seal on the tubes nipple as shown.

Bigg Will 09-12-2017 07:38 AM

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Now the way I did the magic of getting the tube inserted and pump mounted with no leaks is, I lined up the pump, and hold it in place just before the seal seated, I then screwed in it's bolts just enough to let me shove the water pump straight back in place, seating the tubes seal. I then tightened the bolts by hand snug until I could torque them in a cross pattern.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...0a1657dd59.jpg

When ever possible I replaced the torx bolts with flange bolts. Flange bolts are way more forgiving if you get on them wrong, and easier to get on in tight spots, like the whole XF engine bay..lol

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ecd3444572.jpg

And back to that cross over pipe, it has this seal insert inside of it. If the dual seal leaks it will run down into the V, and look like the plastic tube is leaking, so just go ahead and replace it. The seals were $8 ea. the whole part with the seals $15?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...2ff8fc29c9.jpg

Mine looked like this, I replace the complete seal but it was too narrow, and the correct thickness seal was missing a section. I wasted a gallon of antifreeze chasing this..lol

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...75f978156d.jpg

Once all is back together and filled with coolant pressure test again. Mine held 16lbs. for 3 hours

Bigg Will 09-12-2017 08:49 AM

THE SUPERCHARGER SERVICE
Since my leak turned out to be the rear coolant crossover pipe, which requires the removal of the supercharger to access, it now a good time to service the supercharger..lol

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d48899ffe5.jpg

The leaker!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...0e54b2518b.jpg

What else needs to come off to get at the leaker. The cross bar, windshield wipers, cowl, etc. and the symposer needs to be disconnected from the firewall, but left bolted to the supercharger.Yes I did cut away the right hand drive portion of the windshield wiper mount for more room.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...7149492feb.jpg

Once the top portion is off the S/C there will be 8 more bolts to remove, once those are out you'll need to disconnect 3 connectors on the back of the S/C, I got this done by scooting the S/C and forward while tipping the nose up. IT'S a pain.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ceb981fcf2.jpg

S/C out.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d2d6f0849b.jpg

Cleaning time.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...7c25770a67.jpg


Wings off the S/C. My S/C had been serviced before for the couple. and you can see it comes off as a unit.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...bbf41b9c12.jpg

Getting the old oil out. ZZP online was the place to get new oil, I actually got a kit with 8oz of oil, a syringe and a new couple.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...1c5efff23c.jpg

The old S/C oil.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...55bb5a5435.jpg

Before you put the S/C back on the car be sure and do the following, the fill port is on the back and it takes 5.1 oz of oil.<br/>Be sure the bypass valve (The gold circle in the picture) is fully closing, if not it's bleeding boost so use the adjustment stop to fix that. <br/>Check the couple for play, when turning the pulley the rotors should turn with NO play. If you got play the couple is bad, and you'll need to change it, or you'll be doing this job again soon.


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The Leak...

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...006f0e1696.jpg

New crossover and water hose to the throttle body installed and all cleaned, time to fly the S/C back in. Note the 4 locator pins to hold things in place. Don't forget the connectors on the back of the S/C, I also installed a new MAP sensor while it was easily accessible with the S/C off.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d2e28d25ac.jpg

The 4 locator pins, I just cut off 4 M8x40 1.25 bolts, keep them around 2in long. You'll use them to line up both the bottom and top S/C gaskets.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...9840315892.jpg

Bottom half in

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...89001bb42c.jpg

Top on, the manual has the torque amount and sequence.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...c8582d3fff.jpg

All done and running.

Bigg Will 09-12-2017 01:09 PM

ALTERNATOR REBUILD

Well the easiest thing done is giving me the most blues, since so much was out of the way it not a bad time to got the alternator with 80kmi on it either replaced or rebuilt.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...79374edea6.jpg

Very easy alt access with only 3 bolts holding it on.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...991e6d83b4.jpg

The numbers needed to get a build kit.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...16eac274e3.jpg

Shout out to Quality power, this is my 6th item from them (4 alts, 2 starters) They can rebuild the Jag alt to stock 150 or 250 or 320 amps.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...fb86f262bf.jpg

Rebuilt 250 amp alt in.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...7122c80f2a.png

Getting these faults now, researching the problem, but the car starts an runs great and the battery is being charged as Torque app verified.

Bigg Will 09-14-2017 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will (Post 1758543)
ALTERNATOR REBUILD

Well the easiest thing done is giving me the most blues, since so much was out of the way it not a bad time to got the alternator with 80kmi on it either replaced or rebuilt.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...7122c80f2a.png

Getting these faults now, researching the problem, but the car starts an runs great and the battery is being charged as Torque app verified.

PROBLEM SOLVED!
It was a faulty voltage regulator Quality Power put in a new one and we're GOOD!

Bigg Will 09-14-2017 01:01 PM

Early XF's are getting to the point where this stuff and more is going to need fixing, so either start saving your $$ for the dealer or get your tool boxes in order..LOL Next for mine, The tank fuel pump and O2 sensors.

TXFireblade 09-14-2017 01:09 PM

Glad you got the alternator issue sorted out. Did you have any issues getting the supercharger of the engine? Others doing this have reported that it requires some force, and did you reuse the inlet gaskets?

Bigg Will 09-14-2017 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by TXFireblade (Post 1759720)
Glad you got the alternator issue sorted out. Did you have any issues getting the supercharger of the engine? Others doing this have reported that it requires some force, and did you reuse the inlet gaskets?

No issues, but my SC had been serviced at 42kmi. I used new gaskets for everything.

davetibbs 09-15-2017 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will (Post 1759711)
Next for mine, The tank fuel pump and O2 sensors.

Have fun with the fuel pump, it's a PITA. You'll definitely need the special Ford tool 310-123 to release the sender unit locking ring. Mine was so tight I needed to use a breaker bar with a section of pipe on the end to get the leverage required to undo it. Crazy.

Shadow993 09-15-2017 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will
Early XF's are getting to the point where this stuff and more is going to need fixing, so either start saving your $$ for the dealer or get your tool boxes in order..LOL Next for mine, The tank fuel pump and O2 sensors.

How did the intake valves look? Did you clean them?

Bigg Will 09-15-2017 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow993 (Post 1760230)
How did the intake valves look? Did you clean them?

There was some buildup, but not much for 85kmi. Hit them with some brake cleaner and a wire brush.

ariba 03-09-2018 07:25 PM

Hello brother
* Did you changed the intake manifold gasket AJ811576. is there was any other gaskets you changed?
*on(
The 4 locator pins, I just cut off 4 M8x40 1.25 bolts, keep them around 2in long. You'll use them to line up both the bottom and top S/C gaskets) do I have to do it or can I keep the old ones will work?
*MAP Sensor do I have to change it I don't want over pay?
Thanks

Bigg Will 03-10-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by ariba (Post 1855864)
Hello brother
* Did you changed the intake manifold gasket AJ811576. is there was any other gaskets you changed?
*on(
The 4 locator pins, I just cut off 4 M8x40 1.25 bolts, keep them around 2in long. You'll use them to line up both the bottom and top S/C gaskets) do I have to do it or can I keep the old ones will work?
*MAP Sensor do I have to change it I don't want over pay?
Thanks

All gasket I exposed where changed.
The cut off bolts were used only to hold the gaskets and parts in place, they didn't replace the stock bolts.
I replaced my MAP sensor because it had 65kmi on it and is only accessible with the supercharger off. Please see my quote below in RED

ariba 03-10-2018 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Bigg Will (Post 1856074)
All gasket I exposed where changed.
The cut off bolts were used only to hold the gaskets and parts in place, they didn't replace the stock bolts.
I replaced my MAP sensor because it had 65kmi on it and is only accessible with the supercharger off. Please see my quote below in RED

Thank you for the fast reply.

Andyi 04-04-2018 01:22 PM

Hi is the gasket for the top of the supercharger one from jaguar or is it that black stuff in a tube.
I'm going to be replacing the coupler in my s/c and want to have everything I need before I take it apart.
Thanks Andy

Shadow993 04-04-2018 07:17 PM

Great write-up!! Thx for sharing.

Bigg Will 04-05-2018 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Andyi (Post 1870954)
Hi is the gasket for the top of the supercharger one from jaguar or is it that black stuff in a tube.
I'm going to be replacing the coupler in my s/c and want to have everything I need before I take it apart.
Thanks Andy

Jag

Cherry_560sel 04-09-2018 07:59 PM

Bigg Will...dude..I think I broke the little nipple that goes into the water pump on the front end. The damm thing is a PITA to take off and I may have gotten impatient with it...anyhoo. Is there a replacement nipple for this thing? I am losing small amounts of fluid.

Shadow993 04-09-2018 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry_560sel
Bigg Will...dude..I think I broke the little nipple that goes into the water pump on the front end. The damm thing is a PITA to take off and I may have gotten impatient with it...anyhoo. Is there a replacement nipple for this thing? I am losing small amounts of fluid.

Yes...Attachment 212806


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