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BW, I'm just up the road in E Orlando...I had Advance Driveline do mine. They're just off N John Young on the left side going N. You will have to go up to the light and do a U-turn at Edgewater. They do a lot of heavy driveshaft work, like for box trucks, which have similar driveshafts as the X308, so I bet they can do the U-joints quite easily also.
 
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That’s great , thanks! I think I found the right ujoint...Jaguar part jlm823 aka guj108.i ordered one...it was pretty cheap. If it doesn’t work I’ll go to advanced....

that u-joint fits a lot of Land Rovers, several Rover cars, a bunch of Jags and, weirdly, a Volvo.....
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Originally Posted by BW_Hunter View Post
that u-joint fits a lot of Land Rovers, several Rover cars, a bunch of Jags and, weirdly, a Volvo.....
Thanks again!
Ford also owned Volvo from 99-10....coincidence?...I think not...lol
 
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Originally Posted by Highhorse View Post
Ford also owned Volvo from 99-10....coincidence?...I think not...lol
Volvos of the 80's and until mid 90's (240, 740, 940) used the same UJ as the one we are talking about. By 99, there were no more Volvos with a propshaft, only FWD.
 
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Originally Posted by M. Stojanovic View Post
Volvos of the 80's and until mid 90's (240, 740, 940) used the same UJ as the one we are talking about. By 99, there were no more Volvos with a propshaft, only FWD.
What about AWD?
 
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Originally Posted by BW_Hunter View Post
I found the right ujoint...Jaguar part jlm823 aka guj108.i ordered one...
Thank you BW and Euphonium, I have stored those part numbers for any possible future reference.

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Originally Posted by Highhorse View Post
What about AWD?
Well, I meant the usual saloons. UJ-s, like bearings, are shared by many cars, trucks, vans, construction machines and what not. The info on UJ-s suitable for our X308-s is as follows (the sizes shown are cap diameter x UJ span, face to face of two opposite caps).

Propshaft:
Jag p/n GKN p/n Size (mm)
8405 --> U225 (27 x 81.7)
9409 --> U225
10065 --> U225
JLM823 --> U968 (27 x 81.7)
C10065 --> U100 (27 x 81.7) (for some reason, "C10065" shown in the GKN catalogue as Jaguar part no. does not exist on the current Jag parts websites)
Leyland p/n
GUJ108 --> GKN U225
GUJ104 --> GKN U225
GUJ105 --> GKN U225
GUJ117 --> GKN U225

You will note that GKN have their U968 for JLM823 and U225 for GUJ108 but the dimensions of the GKN U225, U968 and U100 are identical so all can be used.

Equivalent UJ-s from other manufacturers:
GMB 210-0153 (215-0153)
SKF UJ369 (SKF cataloge states for “Jaguar 1961-1985”)
Hardy Spicer: 3151-166W, K5-GB117, K5-GB166, K5-LGB104, K5-LGB128, K5-LGB133, K5-LGB166, K5-LGB74
TRW: 20049, 20208, 20306, 20335
There are also equivalent UJ-s from quite a number of other less popular manufacturers like Italcardano, Quinton Hazel, Toyo etc.

This size of UJ-s (GKN U225 or equivalents) is used in vehicles by: British Leyland, Land Rover, Jaguar, Triumph, Bedford, Chrysler, Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Ford, GM, Volvo, Deutz, Fiat Iveco, Fiat Hitachi, International Harvester, Hyster forklifts, Case, Caterpillar, John Deere and Komatsu machines, Mack trucks, Massey Ferguson, ****** Jeep etc.

Half Shafts:
GKN U922
GMB 210-0160, 220-2050, 250-0130, G5-160X, GU-2050, GU-2050SL, GUA-13
SKF UJ330
 
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Looks like Rock Auto have very good prices for the X308 UJ-s:


 
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M. Stojanovic,

Thank you for the excellent information! That's great research.

For those trying to decide which brand to purchase, GKN, GMB and SKF are all known Jaguar OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers). If I recall correctly, GMB is the Japan-based operation of GKN, the U.K.-based company that supplied many Jaguar differentials driveshafts/propshafts, and axles. SKF supplied wheel bearings to Jaguar (and other top-tier customers such as Rolls Royce and the Ferrari Formula One team). We probably can't go wrong with any of the parts you identified.

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It looks like these are for '85 XJ6 , or am i blind ?
 
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Originally Posted by Marcel de Vries View Post
It looks like these are for '85 XJ6 , or am i blind ?
These UJ-s were used on Jaguars starting from Mark 1 (1955) and (officially) up to 1997 (according to a GMB catalogue) meaning including the X300. I said "officially" because after X300, i.e. in the case of the X308, the UJ-s were no more a separate p/n (because they want you to buy the whole $$$$ propshaft). However, the X300 UJ, JLM11718, is not listed as a part number in any of the UJ catalogues I have, only one of the the GMB catalogues states "Jaguars up to 1997". Are X300 UJ-s same as the X308 ones?
 
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"Are X300 UJ-s same as the X308 ones?"


I'm not sure , but found some info for the x308 ones :
"The central universal joint next to the rubber driveshaft mount measures 75mm cap to cap. The cap diameter is 27mm"
- Hardy Spicer K5-L4R (or K5-A757 heavy duty)
- GKN U110/L
- British Leyland GUJ116 (Triumph Stag)

NOTE: These are for the propshaft

Now the question , are the XJ and XJR u-joints different ?
I don't think so
 

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Should be the same part for both the NA and SC cars.

I posted on this a while ago, got some info here as well to add to the parts mentioned. https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...umbers-191468/
 
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I have to make a CORRECTION to the info I posted earlier on the X308 Half Shaft UJ-s. What I showed in my post above for Half Shafts are UJ-s for Jaguars up to 1985, i.e. up to and including XJ6/12 S3. These UJ-s are 30.2 x 106.36.

The correct info for X308 is as follows:

X308 Half-Shaft UJ (30.2 x 92) JLM 1388
Old Jaguar p/n: ----> GKN
11682 ----------------> U220
7152 -----------------> U220
C11682 -------------> U220
Layland:
GUJ112 ------------> U220

The old Jaguar part numbers are not shown on the Barratt's website as superseded by JLM1388 but the UJ-s are identical size. So, the suitable X308 Half Shaft UJ-s are:

GMB.........250-0120, 210-0178, 210-0447
SKF..........UJ331
GKN.........U220
Spicer......1350

and, of course, many equivalents from other manufacturers.
 
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