Gas gauge only reads properly when car is warmed up
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Sometimes the gauges are a bit lazy. I've seen it on several Ser III cars, including the one in my garage right know. Most often it's the voltmeter but it can be others as well.
However......it certainly shouldn't take as long as waiting for the engine to warm up.
Check connections and grounds!
Cheers
DD
However......it certainly shouldn't take as long as waiting for the engine to warm up.
Check connections and grounds!
Cheers
DD
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make the following maintenance procedure > not that it might resolve anything, but it will be a learning exercise and keep you busy:
0) disconnect Negative Cable from Battery,
1) remove the tail lights Lens, (4 phillips/pozi drive screws)
2) remove the tail lights housing, (3 large phillips screws)
3) disconnect the wiring plugs and place assembly safely away
4) look inside the fender with flashlight where you will see the rear of the gas tank,
5) you will see electrical wires connected to the Fuel Sender,
6) remove each wire (one at a time) and clean the connector terminals with a brass wire "toothbrush". You must not produce "sparks" while doing this, that's why you use a brass brush.
7) do the same to each wire connector and connect the wire back
8) reassemble the tail lights and go to the other side and repeat.
9) when finished, reconnect Battery Terminal and start engine.
0) disconnect Negative Cable from Battery,
1) remove the tail lights Lens, (4 phillips/pozi drive screws)
2) remove the tail lights housing, (3 large phillips screws)
3) disconnect the wiring plugs and place assembly safely away
4) look inside the fender with flashlight where you will see the rear of the gas tank,
5) you will see electrical wires connected to the Fuel Sender,
6) remove each wire (one at a time) and clean the connector terminals with a brass wire "toothbrush". You must not produce "sparks" while doing this, that's why you use a brass brush.
7) do the same to each wire connector and connect the wire back
8) reassemble the tail lights and go to the other side and repeat.
9) when finished, reconnect Battery Terminal and start engine.
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Is the clue, "being driven a bit", rather than warmed up?
sloshing in the tanks causes the lever to go up and down just a tad. that in turn wioes the little rheostat that creates the signal to go forward to the guage. if the surface is abit grungy, it would not respond nicely.
The guy next door was fixing a non responsive guage in a middle aged Ford van. It uses a pump sensor combo. Neat lttle rheostat. Badluy worn pivot, so the contact of the sweep and fixed was non existant.
Yuk no fix, new unit only service. Were it mine, I'd seek to find a way to tighten the pivot and eliminate the wear.
The unit in the tank is the ground. so, it has variable resistance to send to the guage.
electromechanics at work.
Carl
sloshing in the tanks causes the lever to go up and down just a tad. that in turn wioes the little rheostat that creates the signal to go forward to the guage. if the surface is abit grungy, it would not respond nicely.
The guy next door was fixing a non responsive guage in a middle aged Ford van. It uses a pump sensor combo. Neat lttle rheostat. Badluy worn pivot, so the contact of the sweep and fixed was non existant.
Yuk no fix, new unit only service. Were it mine, I'd seek to find a way to tighten the pivot and eliminate the wear.
The unit in the tank is the ground. so, it has variable resistance to send to the guage.
electromechanics at work.
Carl
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I am going to try the contact cleaning procedure armed with your insight before I pull the gauges. The right tank gas gauge just sits on 5/8ths full. I suspect it's stuck but I have the fender skirt off on that side and access is relatively easy for a clean up.
Thanks!
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Yikes. I bought two tank gauges for this 77 XJ12 I am working on. I have referred to it as mine but it's a pals and it's been here for a few months (about 20) . I am going to try the contact cleaning procedure armed with your insight before I pull the gauges. The right tank gas gauge just sits on 5/8ths full. I suspect it's stuck but I have the fender skirt off on that side and access is relatively easy for a clean up.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I am not familiar with the Series 2 tanks, Senders, or Floats.
But you bring up something interesting: A sluggish FLOAT or one that doesn't rise fully when the tank is full might cause the 5/8 symptom you are experiencing.
In that case, I would remove the float assembly. inspect it and lube it with some kind of thin lubricant, like 20W carburettor oil.
I did that to the floats in my '65 S type tanks and it fixed one of the floats that was rusty and almost stuck in place.
the gas tank floats are the same principle as toilet valve ball floats, the difference is they are submerged in gasoline, not water. Both get rusty and get stuck.
Remember when removing the assemblies from tanks you need a brass punch/chisel and a plastic mallet, never use steel tools, it can cause a spark and potentially an explosion
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In that case, I would remove the float assembly. inspect it and lube it with some kind of thin lubricant, like 20W carburettor oil.
Remember when removing the assemblies from tanks you need a brass punch/chisel and a plastic mallet, never use steel tools, it can cause a spark and potentially an explosion
Remember when removing the assemblies from tanks you need a brass punch/chisel and a plastic mallet, never use steel tools, it can cause a spark and potentially an explosion
I purchased two new floats from John's cars last summer. I am replacing them both. They were around $110 for both.
I will be careful with the job and will take some pics. Bet they are not that different from the "newer" ones.
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