IRS concerns 1975 XJ6
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IRS concerns 1975 XJ6
This is my concern: Will the IRS rear end in my 75 XJ6 Coupe hold up to the new power plant & transmission ???
I'm installing a 388cu.in SB Chevy in my XJ6. The engine produced 434hp & 468 lbs of torque on the engine dyno. I'm using a pro-built GM 700R4 transmission with a 3.06 first gear ratio & a custom built 2,000 - 2,200 rpm stall converter.
I plan on doing a little drag racing to show these owners of new Camaros & Mustangs what my little Jaguar is made of. In fact I have a little side bet with a buddy of mine who owns a 2012 Camaro SS - who says he'll beat me by 5 cars lenghts or better.
I've been building & racing American muscle cars for over 40 years, but this is my first experience building a Jag - so I'm asking the wisdom of other XJ6 owners. I found I can run a 275-50 drag radial with a special made wheels - so traction shouldn't be an issue. It's my belief the original half-shafts & or rear may fail. What if anything can I do to prevent breakage ?
Advise & opinions welcome - thank you.
I'm installing a 388cu.in SB Chevy in my XJ6. The engine produced 434hp & 468 lbs of torque on the engine dyno. I'm using a pro-built GM 700R4 transmission with a 3.06 first gear ratio & a custom built 2,000 - 2,200 rpm stall converter.
I plan on doing a little drag racing to show these owners of new Camaros & Mustangs what my little Jaguar is made of. In fact I have a little side bet with a buddy of mine who owns a 2012 Camaro SS - who says he'll beat me by 5 cars lenghts or better.
I've been building & racing American muscle cars for over 40 years, but this is my first experience building a Jag - so I'm asking the wisdom of other XJ6 owners. I found I can run a 275-50 drag radial with a special made wheels - so traction shouldn't be an issue. It's my belief the original half-shafts & or rear may fail. What if anything can I do to prevent breakage ?
Advise & opinions welcome - thank you.
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Rear end should hold up
My '71 XJ has a 383 that dynoed at 410 HP and 470# torque with a 200R trans. it used to have 3:31's and now has 2:88's. The rear has given no trouble at all since the new engine in 1997.
It will burn both tires at will and tries to lift the front end with the stock sized
tires.
I can stay up with the older Camaros with 6 speeds as they usually burn too much when they discover the Jag has good low end torque and usually leaves them at the beginning.
You will not beat the new Camaro...at best you will have a high 13 second drag racer without any power additives.
It will burn both tires at will and tries to lift the front end with the stock sized
tires.
I can stay up with the older Camaros with 6 speeds as they usually burn too much when they discover the Jag has good low end torque and usually leaves them at the beginning.
You will not beat the new Camaro...at best you will have a high 13 second drag racer without any power additives.
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the rear is fine it's everything else.
The rear end can handle it. Your torque will be limited by tire traction in any case. I'd like to hear more about how you can run 275's. I've got a traction issue. There are two week points.
1. The rubber rear cage mounts. my car with a SBC 406 has torn apart two.
2. The body mount on the rear trailing arm is weak and a rust prone area and must be re-inforced.
Here's a vid of a support tube I installed on an xj12c and its tied into a reinforced trailing arm area with a plate.
1. The rubber rear cage mounts. my car with a SBC 406 has torn apart two.
2. The body mount on the rear trailing arm is weak and a rust prone area and must be re-inforced.
Last edited by icsamerica; 12-21-2012 at 10:53 AM.
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I would like to thank those who have replied thus far. Seem's by popular opinion thus far, that rear itself is quite strong & that I should be more concerned with the trailing arms & mounts. I've used a similar engine / transmission combo in my 69 Corvette with
an IRS & had nothing but problems. Broken cases & twisted half-shafts. One by one I would address the weak areas & finally after countless hours plus approximately 6k $$$ I had all the bugs worked out.
What I would like to do if possible, is put a steeper gear in the rear 4.10's or 4.30's - although I don't know if these ratio's are even available for my rear. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject.
As for the gentleman's question as to the 275-50 tires. I have a guy that's been making me custom aluminum wheels for the last 5 or 6 years - any bolt circle or offset. Nothing real fancy, just functional - but pricey. Since the brakes are inboard,
inside wheel diameter isn't an issue - wheel size & correct back spacing is.
I'll check back later & again thank you all for your opinions / advise.
an IRS & had nothing but problems. Broken cases & twisted half-shafts. One by one I would address the weak areas & finally after countless hours plus approximately 6k $$$ I had all the bugs worked out.
What I would like to do if possible, is put a steeper gear in the rear 4.10's or 4.30's - although I don't know if these ratio's are even available for my rear. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject.
As for the gentleman's question as to the 275-50 tires. I have a guy that's been making me custom aluminum wheels for the last 5 or 6 years - any bolt circle or offset. Nothing real fancy, just functional - but pricey. Since the brakes are inboard,
inside wheel diameter isn't an issue - wheel size & correct back spacing is.
I'll check back later & again thank you all for your opinions / advise.
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This is my concern: Will the IRS rear end in my 75 XJ6 Coupe hold up to the new power plant & transmission ???
I'm installing a 388cu.in SB Chevy in my XJ6. The engine produced 434hp & 468 lbs of torque on the engine dyno. I'm using a pro-built GM 700R4 transmission with a 3.06 first gear ratio & a custom built 2,000 - 2,200 rpm stall converter.
I'm installing a 388cu.in SB Chevy in my XJ6. The engine produced 434hp & 468 lbs of torque on the engine dyno. I'm using a pro-built GM 700R4 transmission with a 3.06 first gear ratio & a custom built 2,000 - 2,200 rpm stall converter.
BTW, I've heard of XKE guys shaving the bump stops to get some extra room. That might be an option for you too.
The rear end can handle it. Your torque will be limited by tire traction in any case. I'd like to hear more about how you can run 275's. I've got a traction issue. There are two week points.
1. The rubber rear cage mounts. my car with a SBC 406 has torn apart two.
2. The body mount on the rear trailing arm is weak and a rust prone area and must be re-inforced.
1. The rubber rear cage mounts. my car with a SBC 406 has torn apart two.
2. The body mount on the rear trailing arm is weak and a rust prone area and must be re-inforced.
Let us know how the rear tire endeavor goes - and please post pictures when you have something together!!
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Link to IRS web site
Independent Rear Suspension Forum / 1972 XJ6 IRS Brakes
I sent this link originally, they do all kinds of Jag IRS mods there and can
help reinforce for road racing.
My only experience has been straight line stuff...with no problems.
Throwing a heavy Jag sedan around corners would make stresses on the trailing arm rubber parts and any other part not new or properly secured.
Jag rear ends came in other desirable ratios and a shop I have used in CA
has all of them. Curt Hamilton in Van Nuys, CA, Hamilton Auto Industries.
They have everything and can do anything to a Jag IRS.
I sent this link originally, they do all kinds of Jag IRS mods there and can
help reinforce for road racing.
My only experience has been straight line stuff...with no problems.
Throwing a heavy Jag sedan around corners would make stresses on the trailing arm rubber parts and any other part not new or properly secured.
Jag rear ends came in other desirable ratios and a shop I have used in CA
has all of them. Curt Hamilton in Van Nuys, CA, Hamilton Auto Industries.
They have everything and can do anything to a Jag IRS.
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to original poster, if you are serious about DRAG racing , just mount a 9" Ford rear, been done a thousand times or more,solid live axle, cant get much better for D/R.
ford came out with the 9" in 1957, go figure!
IRS has never been up for wheel lifting launches! and going straight at the same time!
ford came out with the 9" in 1957, go figure!
IRS has never been up for wheel lifting launches! and going straight at the same time!
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