Series 3 boot emblem style questions
Time to consult the experts here again ! While deciding when / how to repaint my boot emblems, I noticed that there are two distinct types of the "Jaguar" logo & sub model badges used. The "engraved & painted block style" or the "outline script style" for lack of official names. Does anyone here know what style was used when and why ? Or was it a dealer installed option picked out by the customer ? While I'm on the topic of trying to learn all the changing trim styles over time, has anyone ever published a book or website cataloging all the year / sub model variations for the XJ6 & XJ12 ? ( Like the 50 shades of leather, satin vs chrome door sill plates etc ! ). Thanks for any input, trying searching and figuring it out myself but got a headache !
Thanks Brian |
Originally Posted by kudzu
(Post 2035871)
Time to consult the experts here again ! While deciding when / how to repaint my boot emblems, I noticed that there are two distinct types of the "Jaguar" logo & sub model badges used. The "engraved & painted block style"
https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/u...unk-lid-emblem I think this style was used only on upper-line models or the "outline script style" for lack of official names. There were two variations of this that I'm familiar with. On the earlier style the letters had a more block-ish appearance. The font of the letters was softened on later emblems. I wanna say 1986 was the first year for the softer style....but don't take that to the bank Or was it a dealer installed option picked out by the customer ? While I'm on the topic of trying to learn all the changing trim styles over time, has anyone ever published a book or website cataloging all the year / sub model variations for the XJ6 & XJ12 ? ( Like the 50 shades of leather, satin vs chrome door sill plates etc ! ). Thanks for any input, trying searching and figuring it out myself but got a headache ! Thanks Brian http://www.jag-lovers.org/xjlovers/info/jagcare3.pdf The polished sill plates replaced the satin aluminum style in late 1985 (1986 model year in many countries, including the USA)....one of many subtle cosmetic changes that took place at that time, even on lower level cars. Others included chrome seat adjuster bars, speaker rings, and door latch covers. And the wood veneered 'ski slope' on the console. And the wood trim strips in the door panels...which were vaguely similar to the wood strips previously seen on only the upper level models. Cheers DD |
Thanks for the reply, hadn't seen the jagcare pdf yet. I've been piecing together the info on all the differences as I've been scouring u-pull yards for my work in progress "feral kitty". Might be adding to the collection too if a upcoming auction goes well ! Jags are like chips, you can't stop with just one.
Cheers, Brian |
Hi Brian,
Up to 1985 Series 3 trunk / boot badges were scripted and open lettering. Somewhere during 1985 the factory changed to rectangular chromed badges in embossed metal with blackened script and border. This change was to all cars regardless of specification. I say somewhere as I have an April 1985 build Jaguar which has the older style of badging although Jaguar records indicate a change seemingly at the start of the year, so maybe they just used up existing stock Cheers, Nigel |
Originally Posted by Jag-o-nomic
(Post 2035938)
Somewhere during 1985 the factory changed to rectangular chromed badges in embossed metal with blackened script and border. This change was to all cars regardless of specification. Andrew. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...7389c57ec.jpeg |
some people change them, so who knows. All styles fit the same way, with two pins.
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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...b769293031.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...684fc35eff.jpg Here a some pics (one not very good, sorry) of the early and late style font used on the Series IIIs. I'm pretty sure that 1985 was the last year of the more 'block style' font Cheers DD |
Originally Posted by Jose
(Post 2036116)
some people change them, so who knows. All styles fit the same way, with two pins.
The rear emblems on my '85, '87, and '88 Series IIIs were/are self adhesive, no pegs or pins....nor any holes for them! Cheers DD |
Originally Posted by Tar
(Post 2036106)
Not quite. There were also open badges (not rectangular plates, on the later cars (see BCC3640 and BCC3642). My ‘87 has these ex factory. I’ve never been able to determine empirically the rhyme or reason for the rectangular vs open script style—don’t think rectangular were restricted to VDP or Sovereign models, as these designation badges replaced the ‘XJ6’ one. Andrew. On USA-market Series IIIs I've seen the open-lettering style only on base level cars and the rectangular placard style only on VDPs, right up to the end on the '87 model year cars. My '87 base model certainly had the open script...in the later, softer font Cheers DD |
Ah, the plot thickens ! Leave it to Jaguar to make something simple complex ! Thanks for all the input, if someone hasn't written a detailed XJ history book yet, they should. The Jagcare pdf is really helpful Doug, thanks for the link. Maybe the author could develop it into a illustrated history / guide book after digging in Jaguar's archives, I'd buy a copy for sure. On a side note, when junk yard searching for extra bits, XJ's are easy to spot in the pack thanks to to their unique and beautiful lines ( even damaged ). Meanwhile it was a real pain to tell Toyota Corolla's from other makes once the emblems were gone, they ALL looked alike ( I was getting parts for a friends car at the same time ).
Cheers & thanks again for all the replies ! Brian |
Originally Posted by Jose
(Post 2036116)
some people change them, so who knows. All styles fit the same way, with two pins.
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Originally Posted by sov211
(Post 2036615)
The later badges on Series III cars from about 1987-88 right through 1992 (and this includes the leaper badges on the front fenders) were attached not with pins but with double-sided tape.
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Brian, check out this book:
Jaguar XJ The Complete Companion by Nigel Thorley. Published in 1991. It covers in great detail the history of the XJ line from the series I through the then new 1991 V12s |
All Nix's trunk badges were long ago Removed!
She don't need no stinking badges! Much cleaner (not to mention easier to clean) back end is the result. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...be87ab716a.jpg (';') |
Originally Posted by LnrB
(Post 2037202)
All Nix's trunk badges were long ago Removed!
She don't need no stinking badges! Much cleaner (not to mention easier to clean) back end is the result. -Antoine de St Exupery Cheers DD |
Two things:
1. Got a welcome chuckle from Elinor and Doug. 2. My 83 is almost like Jose's 84. See Tar's page. I have BCC 3640 and BCC 3642. Each secured with sharp pins. So, I f I managed to get them off, I'd have holes to deal with??? Not gonna happen. 3. Mine does have another badge. V8. Attached with emblem cement on the right side, by the XK6 !!! Chores almost done. Errands in a bit.. Ugh,. more rain!!!! The TV weather folks have lots of material to talk about!!! Carl |
Here is the back end of my original 1986 Jaguar XJ Series III V12 Sovereign.
This specific car was built for the German market. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...23e23632d8.jpg |
mine no emblem but two empty holes, NOTHING else on boot lid!
found this on Ebay UK, like 25yrs ago! https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...9483b8dca6.jpg th-th-thats all folks. |
Originally Posted by Yellow series3
(Post 2037157)
Brian, check out this book:
Jaguar XJ The Complete Companion by Nigel Thorley. Published in 1991. It covers in great detail the history of the XJ line from the series I through the then new 1991 V12s Cheers Brian |
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