Now what?! TPS? Stuck pedal? Vid inside
ok so, finally get the car to start and stay lit... but the idle is going up and down. I figured AAV, but by dumb luck found the pedal seems to be sticky. If I bring it all the way back it idles up and down. If I just touch it it idles fine but too high. If I go to the throttle stand and twist the throttle all the way shut it starts idling weird again and only gets set a little open again if the pedal is touched....even with the pedal sticking there's no reason for the idle to pulse... is the TPS bad? I set it a month ago
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Look for some sort of binding in the linkages or cable. Perhaps the notorious throttle bushings? Perhaps disconnecting the cable will help isolate things.
Also there's a bushing at the pivot point of the throttle pedal. Worth taking a peek at it The idle surge is almost certainly too much air coming in....from somewhere. When the RPM reached xxx-level the ECU cuts off the fuel and the idle momentarily drops. Repeat, repeat...... On principles make sure both throttle blades are set to .002", the throttle bores are clean, and the linkage is synchronized. Cheers DD |
Sticky thing is bound to be mechanical but depending whether fitted to your car the idle switch might also be worth checking in regard to uneven idle.
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Originally Posted by Doug
(Post 1752269)
Look for some sort of binding in the linkages or cable. Perhaps the notorious throttle bushings? Perhaps disconnecting the cable will help isolate things.
Also there's a bushing at the pivot point of the throttle pedal. Worth taking a peek at it The idle surge is almost certainly too much air coming in....from somewhere. When the RPM reached xxx-level the ECU cuts off the fuel and the idle momentarily drops. Repeat, repeat...... On principles make sure both throttle blades are set to .002", the throttle bores are clean, and the linkage is synchronized. Cheers DD |
What model XJS
Up to about 92/93 the cruise control pulled on the accelerator pedal via an arm mounted on the pedal assembly. Mine catches slightly and holds the throttle open. |
Originally Posted by warrjon
(Post 1752380)
What model XJS
Up to about 92/93 the cruise control pulled on the accelerator pedal via an arm mounted on the pedal assembly. Mine catches slightly and holds the throttle open. |
Originally Posted by Doug
(Post 1752269)
Look for some sort of binding in the linkages or cable. Perhaps the notorious throttle bushings? Perhaps disconnecting the cable will help isolate things.
Also there's a bushing at the pivot point of the throttle pedal. Worth taking a peek at it The idle surge is almost certainly too much air coming in....from somewhere. When the RPM reached xxx-level the ECU cuts off the fuel and the idle momentarily drops. Repeat, repeat...... On principles make sure both throttle blades are set to .002", the throttle bores are clean, and the linkage is synchronized. Cheers DD |
those rods are used in radio controlled models. Something like this.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10PC...06.4.10.j1eTeO |
Originally Posted by 944xjs
(Post 1752844)
im thinking the bushings are bad as I do know there is a lot of play in the rods. I feel like the balljoints on the rods are crap too.
Possible, I reckon, but I've never seen any that caused a problem, personally. They will obviously wear a bit over time but the rod adjustments can compensate for that. Does the movement not feel smooth? Cheers DD |
Originally Posted by Doug
(Post 1753099)
Possible, I reckon, but I've never seen any that caused a problem, personally. They will obviously wear a bit over time but the rod adjustments can compensate for that.
Does the movement not feel smooth? Cheers DD before the butterfly's start to move. |
You can adjust that play out. There is backlash in the whole setup.
Remove the links from the throttle bodys and adjust the butterfly's with everything disconnected, put the links back on the TB's. Then remove one of those rods and adjust the other one to take up all the slack, remove it install the other one and do the same. Put them both back on. Lastly check both butterfly's open simultaneously and you're done. |
Originally Posted by warrjon
(Post 1753316)
You can adjust that play out. There is backlash in the whole setup.
Remove the links from the throttle bodys and adjust the butterfly's with everything disconnected, put the links back on the TB's. Then remove one of those rods and adjust the other one to take up all the slack, remove it install the other one and do the same. Put them both back on. Lastly check both butterfly's open simultaneously and you're done. |
Are your sensors toast? in the video the first thing I saw was oil pressure at MAX and your car is overheating at idle?
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Here you go.
They were posted a long time back, maybe you missed them. Attachment 202299 Attachment 202300 |
Originally Posted by VancouverXJ6
(Post 1753434)
Are your sensors toast? in the video the first thing I saw was oil pressure at MAX and your car is overheating at idle?
Originally Posted by Grant Francis
(Post 1753442)
Here you go.
They were posted a long time back, maybe you missed them. Attachment 202299 Attachment 202300 |
Dunno.
Never gave it any thought, the factory manual says so, and that was waaaaay before the Internet was invented, and we did as we were told, and worked out the errors later if needed, and I have stuck with that procedure. |
Grants spacer suggestion ensures that both throttles are synchronized, but have sufficient action to fully close against the throttle stops.
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Originally Posted by 944xjs
(Post 1753945)
one thing, why a 2mm spacer against the stop?
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Originally Posted by JigJag
(Post 1754043)
Grants spacer suggestion ensures that both throttles are synchronized, but have sufficient action to fully close against the throttle stops.
The manual does mention that, but its just habit now for me, same as the LH and RH threaded rods. Seen a few of them snapped due to the lack of thought of the spanner man, and the manual does not tell you that one. V12's are so special, just like most owners. |
Originally Posted by Greg in France
(Post 1754047)
including a bit of play in case of thermal expansion of the rods etc when the heat gets into the engine.
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