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AVMiii 03-29-2019 12:52 PM

$2500 to change a PCV valve?
 
I was at the local Land Rover parts counter waiting for my not so cheap Castrol oil ($12.0 1qt 0W20) for my 2010 XKR, and I heard one of the service reps calling a customer and telling him the said news that his vehicle needed a new PCV valve. The explanation continued with details that the valve was bad and oil was getting sucked into one of the cylinders, hence the smoking that the customer had observed. The service guy went on to explain that the PCV valve and valve cover were "one piece" and would have to be replaced as a unit. The parts and labor for this would total almost $2500! Now, I'm really too curious not to admit that I overheard his conversation so I asked him which engine he was talking to the customer about. His response was 5L V8 supercharged.
Yikes! Sounds like a dubious design to mate a part that will have to be replaced with a valve cover, or else the service guy was feeding him a load of crap...
Anyone change or had a pcv valve changed and can comment on this repair?

makecopies 03-29-2019 01:08 PM

:icon_crackup:I overheard something similar when I was at the Jaguar/Land Rover dealer I was there getting my deeply discounted oil change via coupon
and the Service Advisor came out to the customer sitting next to me on that plush leather couch and proceeded to tell him it will cost 1950.00 to replace brake rotors and pads
on his Discovery :icon_no:

sparky fuze 03-29-2019 02:03 PM

If there is a jar of K-Y Jelly on the service advisors counter, turn around and walk out immediately. Then visit your local indy for any repairs you may need.

TXFireblade 03-29-2019 02:05 PM

The supercharger has to come off in order to replace either valve cover.

GGG 03-29-2019 02:06 PM

Is this Service Advisor hot desking? :icon_lol:

Graham

Sean W 03-29-2019 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by sparky fuze (Post 2047582)
If there is a jar of K-Y Jelly on the service advisors counter, turn around and walk out immediately.

Probably want to run if there's no viener slider at all...

AVMiii 03-29-2019 02:24 PM

Ahh, the service guy did note that there was a lot of labor involved. A quick internet search yielded a $200 valve cover with integral PCV valve, so I guess that this is sort of legit .

Queen and Country 03-29-2019 02:36 PM

You can bypass it altogether by installing a catch-can. It will yield superior results.

SinF 03-29-2019 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 2047592)
You can bypass it altogether by installing a catch-can. It will yield superior results.

This is bad advice. Malfunctioning PCV (and we don't know exact mode of failure, it could fail shut) can cause other issues, like fuel in oil, sludge formation, or oil leaks through valve cove. Catch-can will only mitigate oil blow-by.

Sean W 03-29-2019 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by SinF (Post 2047610)
This is bad advice. Malfunctioning PCV (and we don't know exact mode of failure, it could fail shut) can cause other issues, like fuel in oil, sludge formation, or oil leaks through valve cove. Catch-can will only mitigate oil blow-by.

To your point, an explanation on the need for the use of a catch can. At the very least, the guy is entertaining.

Brutal 03-29-2019 05:19 PM

Most breather covers fail by creating a crankcse leak and lean engine code. This lets to much air in the sealed(supposed to be) crankcase and therefor let alot of oil vapor go through the full load beather. Yes super charger off, and injectors, coils wiring etc. That job sucks and i would also add in a couple other things like the heater pipe on the back of the motor since its pretty exposed at the time. These things aint toyotas... :)

Cambo 03-29-2019 05:53 PM

Fortunately you can now buy repair kits for the PCV/s on the AJ133 & AJ126, so no need to replace the entire valve cover.

TXFireblade 03-29-2019 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Brutal (Post 2047640)
Yes super charger off, and injectors, coils wiring etc. That job sucks and i would also add in a couple other things like the heater pipe on the back of the motor since its pretty exposed at the time. These things aint toyotas... :)

Lord that sucks. I didn't realize the injects needed to come out. What a pain in the rear for something like pulling a cam cover.

AJ16er 03-29-2019 06:05 PM

$2,500 sounds about right considering the labor involved and that I just paid nearly $600 to replace a fuel pressure sensor on a V6 VW.

jagtoes 03-29-2019 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Sean W (Post 2047627)
To your point, an explanation on the need for the use of a catch can. At the very least, the guy is entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBAqxSXFyb4

Funny and good presentation. You can put me in the catch can porn crowd as I needed to do it on my wife's 89 Volvo 740. The blow by took out several seals so I had to come up with a self designed catch can to relieve the pressures in the cam area. Did it around 50,000 miles ago and the car now has 375,000 miles on it. I don't put the vapors back into the intake but vent to atmosphere. Kind of a return to yesteryear before PCV valves. I'll take it off when the motor blows and I rebuild it but for now it works.

badicedog 03-31-2019 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by TXFireblade (Post 2047655)
Lord that sucks. I didn't realize the injects needed to come out. What a pain in the rear for something like pulling a cam cover.

Man, my non supercharged Jag is looking better and better with each post I read....lol Good luck with the repair.

TXFireblade 03-31-2019 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by badicedog (Post 2048137)
Man, my non supercharged Jag is looking better and better with each post I read....lol Good luck with the repair.

I'll bet you still have to pull the injectors and coil packs/plugs etc on the normally aspirated version.

kj07xk 03-31-2019 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by TXFireblade (Post 2048365)
I'll bet you still have to pull the injectors and coil packs/plugs etc on the normally aspirated version.

Don't know about the 5.0L, but on my 4.2L NA, only had to pull the coils, the plugs stay in, when removing the valve cover.


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