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My 10 XKR has just over 800 miles on it since purchase and I just can’t take the amount of brake dust the pads are throwing all over my wheels and down the sides. So I have several questions:

1. Can I just replace the pads without buying new rotors which were installed 800 miles ago?
( I’ve heard you can not with jags and must replace rotors with pads )

2. Do I have to purchase new wear sensors with new pads?

3. I’m looking at the EBC Ceramic “low dust” pads (Red). Besides these at $300 for Fronts and rears. What other brands will provide the same results to reduce dust and stop my cat in its tracks? Love Hawk brake pads, but it appears they do not support our cars.

Sorry for for my ignorance, if this car was a GM, I wouldn’t be asking and already would have changed the pad in the time it took to type this.
 
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:27 PM
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My 10 XKR has just over 800 miles on it since purchase and I just can’t take the amount of brake dust the pads are throwing all over my wheels and down the sides. So I have several questions:

1. Can I just replace the pads without buying new rotors which were installed 800 miles ago?
( I’ve heard you can not with jags and must replace rotors with pads )

2. Do I have to purchase new wear sensors with new pads?

3. I’m looking at the EBC Ceramic “low dust” pads (Red). Besides these at $300 for Fronts and rears. What other brands will provide the same results to reduce dust and stop my cat in its tracks? Love Hawk brake pads, but it appears they do not support our cars.

Sorry for for my ignorance, if this car was a GM, I wouldn’t be asking and already would have changed the pad in the time it took to type this.
With 800 miles on the rotors you shouldn't have to replace them with new pads. What I would do is pull the rotors and scuff them and bed in the new pads. As for the sensor just look at it and assuming it look new then reuse it.
 
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Old 04-15-2019, 10:24 PM
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ALL rotors are fine to reuse if they still have enough meat on them. As jagtoes said, new pads would require at minimum a light scuffing to break any glazing and set up a new bed-in surface for new pads. Hell, a flapper wheel on a drill would be enough.
 
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Old 04-15-2019, 10:30 PM
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With 800 miles, your rotors shouldn't even show signs of wear. As JT recommends, I would lightly rough up the surface with something like 220grit.

Also keep in mind that you are trading 'performance' for 'low dust', so if you are an aggressive driver, I would not recommend Ceramic pads. For those that drive casual, and run on all seasons they are adequate.

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I used Akebono pads, and no longer have the dusting issue.
 
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I used Akebono pads, and no longer have the dusting issue.
Same here, but on a 4.2L, not sure if they make both front and rear for the 5.0L cars.
 
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Akebono are popular with Jaguar owners. Check if Porterfield has something. There are some non ceramic pads that don't dust so much too. May want to look out for those.
 
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Akebono are popular with Jaguar owners. Check if Porterfield has something. ..........
I have Porterfields on the front. They dust about half the OEM, but stop better. So if you're a driver between sedate and insane, they would probably be a good compromise.
 
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Originally Posted by 110reef View Post
I used Akebono pads, and no longer have the dusting issue.
According to Akebono website they only make rear pads for the 2010-2014 XK (EUR1095), Which doesn’t make much sense. They list for a 2009 XK, EUR1241 fronts and EUR1095 rears

Porterfield site lists front and rear pads are the “R4-S” and about 220 dollars combined for front and rears on my ‘10 XKR.
 
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I like the high-friction OEM pads (edge code GG - Cf between 0.45 to 0.55), so I wouldn't bother down-grading just for less dust. I have used Redstuff from the ceramic camp and they are pretty average, especially if you look at how little torque they generate on a brake tester - it is not just subjective.

Porterfield are not commonly available in Europe but they quote their Cf value for the R4-S road pad as 0.41 (edge code FF) which seems average, especially that those prices.

Another States-side ceramic option could be the TRW TPC1448 and TRW TPC1449. Also FF-rated for the XKR sizes. These seem very rare this side of the water but might be worth a try if easily available though (about $130 for a full set).
 
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I found a different solution to the brake dust problem.
Triple coated the wheels with ceramic. Very easy to do. Now I can wash it of with just a stream of water, or if brake dust has been on it for a while, soap & water.
Never had a buildup problem in since, 4+ years, its like non-stick.

Instructions for those applying ceramic.
Normally when ceramic is applied, its wiped after application to get a glassy finish.- Dont do this, just apply ceramic generously, allow to cure for a day, repeat.
Dont use any type of wheel cleaner after coating it, not only is it unnecessary it will also strip the ceramic.
 
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