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XKR75 08-04-2020 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 2270632)
Yes it's the OEM screen, but it's a 2012 and those screens have a better image quality than the earlier cars up to 2008.


It's explained in this thread.


I removed your links to N**t**l, because....

Thanks for the response Cambo, I appreciate the time you’ve taken to get back to me/us.

Sean W 08-04-2020 01:28 PM

Cambo, if I recall when we were experimenting a few years ago on a project, the 2010 onward touch screens didn't work in the 07-09 models. Heating functions and seat heaters didn't respond because those modules were updated in 2010 onward models.

They did work though if they were re-flashed with 09 software which I was able to do successfully back then with your software.
Have you since solved for that also so a 2012 screen can be used in an 07-09?

Cambo 08-04-2020 03:09 PM

To be honest Sean I haven't looked into it any further.

Stuart S 08-05-2020 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Barry Leftwich (Post 2270612)
you got an XK from the FUTURE!Elaborate please about how you got that??????

Back in the day, this top secret experimental XK was far ahead of its time with negative gravity suspension and nuclear power. It was stopped by the RAF and never saw production. Speculation is that the RAF was developing the same technology as evidenced by UFO sightings.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...5d5506e889.jpg

An insider's joke was that the Delorean Time Machine made famous by the Back To The Future movies paid tribute to William Lyons, who was known as "Mr. Jaguar", in this scene.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...28d6111138.jpg


wadenelson 08-05-2020 07:52 AM

Has it got a cassette player? Cassette adaptor. Otherwise, $5 ebay FM/Bluetooth transmitter plugs into the cigar lighter.

Why?

Carplay sucks. Bluetooth sucks. Can't get the volume LOUD ENOUGH with ANY of the Bluetooth transmitters. They're ALL made in China and
apparently ALL use the same flawed chipset. Iphone to FULL VOLUME, Adaptor to FULL VOLUME, Stereo to FULL VOLUME and it's about HALF as loud as you want.

Carplay sucks because Apple FOOKS over Google Maps and Itunes / music you have playing "talks over" Map instructions to where you can't hear them. There
is SO MUCH LAG in the Bluetooth "packets" getting sent that sometimes they just get SWALLOWED. Esp if you use Google maps.

HONEST TO GOD, a $2.99 wired Cassette adaptor, plugged into a mini-jack to lightning adaptor, into your Iphone. WORKS BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHER SOLUTIONS.

I sh*t you not!

slash32487 10-05-2020 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 2267064)
Stuart yours being a 4.2L any Jaguar dealer can turn on the AUX input. And any competent car audio shop would be able to install this kit in your car.

I'm praying to get this done on my 2012 in the USA. Besides for getting into engineering mode with sdd what other hardware and or software is needed?

Hoping I could pull it off on my own or team up with a local audio specialist

StiggyMac 10-05-2020 10:01 AM

Man I was getting hopefully reading this thread, but it looks like post 2011 XK owners are SOL getting CarPlay retrofitted.
I assume the best alternative is the Bovee 1000 and the media cable to stream audio?

80sRule 10-05-2020 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Cambo (Post 2267064)
Stuart yours being a 4.2L any Jaguar dealer can turn on the AUX input. And any competent car audio shop would be able to install this kit in your car.

I just installed this kit in my 07; C2P16491; that I bought from Rimmer Bros for around 300USD shipped: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-C2P16...ctedCurrency-3

Basically, pull the glovebox, pull the center stack bezel, pull the nav+stereo+hvac electronics bit, pull the shift surround bezel, pull the right hand side console leather bit, and then get to fettling! No splicing wires or anything, its all plug and play, with a bit of drilling plastic on the glovebox.

The kit came with excellent instructions, a supplemental manual (complete with an old ass ipod, 128MB usb drive, and "media player" photo on it), and a supplement telling you how to turn on the ACM in SDD/IDS. The instructions are for RHD, so note that when drilling the plastic for the glovebox that the RCA and usb plastic will be turned 180 degrees in a LHD car. So basically flip over the little aluminum brace and drill the holes based on IT flipped 180 from the manual or you'll drill too high for the holes.

Honestly the physical doing of the install was pretty easy and straightforward and the little manual did the job great! Then turning on the aux jack in SDD/IDS is not too hard, if you have a Mongoose/Mangoose, it can rewrite the CCF with that option added. I used the ACM turn on and it was slick. Remember of course to have a stable power supply to the battery (I have this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PowerMa...53.m2749.l2649). Took about 10 minutes. This is something to pay the dealer for if you are not comfortable doing the programming.

So Boom! Now my XKR has the same line in capabilities as my 2011 VW. THE FUTURE IS NOW.

jahummer 10-05-2020 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by StiggyMac (Post 2298819)
Man I was getting hopefully reading this thread, but it looks like post 2011 XK owners are SOL getting CarPlay retrofitted.
I assume the best alternative is the Bovee 1000 and the media cable to stream audio?

Yours should already have the Apple dock fitted as standard.

Stuart S 10-05-2020 07:49 PM

iPod connectivity became standard equipment in 2009, the last 4.2L model year, including steering wheel controls and touchscreen display. The first generation OEM Jaguar iPod cable did not provide simultaneous iPod charging while playing, but that was remedied in 2010 with a new and improved iPod cable that also worked in the 2009 models.

StiggyMac 10-05-2020 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by jahummer (Post 2298847)
Yours should already have the Apple dock fitted as standard.

The Apple dock uses the old 30pin connection.
I bought the Bovee 1000 that connects to the 30pin connector and provides Bluetooth connectivity to my iPhone for music.

jahummer 10-05-2020 09:00 PM

I use a genuine Apple 30-pin to lightning adapter and subscribe to Apple Music with all of my playlists fully accessible via the TSD as well as other features Apple Music offers such as stations, new music etc. I do not like the sound quality of Bluetooth streaming and prefer to keep Bluetooth for hands free phone connectivity.

StiggyMac 10-05-2020 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by jahummer (Post 2299121)
I use a genuine Apple 30-pin to lightning adapter and subscribe to Apple Music so all of my playlists are fully accessible via the TSD as well as other features Apple Music offers such as stations, new music etc. I do not like the sound quality of Bluetooth streaming and prefer to keep Bluetooth for hands free phone connectivity.

Hmmm didn’t think about converting the 30pin to Lightning. Do they even make that anymore?

In any case Apple Music streams just fine from phone via the Bovee Bluetooth. Audio quality is fine for a car and the Bluetooth for phone calls works fine too. The exhaust soundtrack is better anyway.




slash32487 10-06-2020 12:48 PM

First i would like to thank Cambo on all his posts ive gained some information that i hope will help me.
Originally i went into this project thinking i can DIY it even though its been stated not to.

Cambo and cartronix offer some solutions but they are not cheap. so i went to look into some other alternatives not to do but to ease my mind and feel comfortable spending that kind of money before even paying an installer. that being said i did find this and it does seem intriguing again my plan is to probably buy from Cambo or cartronix but i was curious about this hardware so i thought i would share.

Disclaimer Car interface has no affiliation to me and they also do not claim to support the installation

However they claim that you must open the monitor and install the pcb (seen below) as well as the other hardware and this should work on the stock touchscreen without needed the knob and buttons that it comes with. im skeptical but intrigued.

just to reiterate i plan to get the install done with cambos reccomendations this was just an attempt to share my findings
CI-RL2-GVIF-JA
CI-CARPLAY-UNI2
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...8362bfdd72.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...d00400615e.jpg





Cee Jay 10-06-2020 06:28 PM

GVIF and a CAMP2? Cool.
I use a GVIF and an Android TV box with Torque Pro and a whole lot of other stuff on it. Youtube, email, the entire internet, actually. The only bad part is the TSD is fairly low resolution so the pictures sometimes get a tad grainy.

kj07xk 10-06-2020 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cee Jay (Post 2299545)
GVIF and a CAMP2? ...

GVIF - yes
HKS Camp2 - no
Something else. Part number says its some CarPlay unit. Looks like a couple of antennas, microphone, and a joystick.

Mchammer 10-12-2020 10:46 AM

Cambo

I took your advice and went to Mark @cartonics but wasnt able to get the full steering wheel control. Are you able to have a conversation with him so i can get this update done ? If it makes a difference I have a Dynamic R
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...80810f7652.jpg


Great work BTW really appreciated and makes a huge difference to me Cambo so thanks !
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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...93c38925e9.jpg


LockNumber25 03-19-2021 06:38 PM

Does anyone know how the touchscreen integration has been achieved with this install? Is this all off-the-shelf units? Being in the UK, only option seems to be £1.5k at Cartronics which I don't really fancy and think I could have a good stab at a DIY install if I knew what the BOM was. I already have a GVIF/RPI/Rotary encoder solution for Android Auto from a previous car but this looks cleaner and a higher quality image.

Andrew.

Sean W 03-19-2021 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by LockNumber25 (Post 2367653)
Does anyone know how the touchscreen integration has been achieved with this install? Is this all off-the-shelf units? Being in the UK, only option seems to be £1.5k at Cartronics which I don't really fancy and think I could have a good stab at a DIY install if I knew what the BOM was. I already have a GVIF/RPI/Rotary encoder solution for Android Auto from a previous car but this looks cleaner and a higher quality image.

Andrew.

Yes, Cambo's setup integrates the touchscreen. See post 7. You will need his HDMI GVIF box.

LockNumber25 03-19-2021 07:33 PM

Thanks Sean. I've PM'd Cambo.


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