Others will chime in but I would be concerned with the oil leak and the top. It goes without saying that they need to replace the battery . Unfortunately the top is gone and needs to be replaced. The rear window has been separating and this is a quick fix. I have also found that if the rubber boots are split then there is contamination already in the joints. That would require them to be replaced. I am surprised at the rust on the exhaust system. I'll let others post.

 

Thanks so much for the quick reply! I assume the top replacement is major surgery?

As for the joints, I agree there is probably contamination, the question becomes, is it a fix now with. Shop? Or fix over the winter and do it myself over a month or something. Or is it a replace as needed and spread it out over the next 18 months?

I assume given your comments,.you would advise passing in the car?

Thanks again!

 

Basically you got a good report. I would use the findings in my negotiations with the dealer. At a minimum he should replace the battery with a fully charged new one. The car is nine years old with 60k+ miles on it so it is not to surprising that the bushings are showing wear. The top can be replaced for about $2k including installation. It is time for the transmission fluid to be changed. ZF now recommends replacing the fluid between 60 and 80k miles. Brake fluid looks like it should be replaced. Jaguar recommends replacement every 2 years. As far as the owners manual, you can download one at no cost from up in the stickies. From the pictures it looks like the car can use a paint correction. I saw no road rash on the wheels. If you like the car, all in all a good buy at the right price. One other thing; I had scuffed up the bolster on my 12 XK vert and had it replaced for $600. When it was done the seat looked new. Good luck.

 

Not necessarily . The only reason why I would pass it up is because of my age. At this point in life I just want to drive and enjoy the car . In my youth I would consider it provided the price was right. You need to work out your budget and if it fits then go for it. At 19K it is a not bad price and with what has been found you should be able to get more off. I also suspect there are more out there in better condition but at a little higher price. I bought my 2012 in 2014 for $75K. I put 20K miles on it and sold it in Dec. of 2019 for $35K. So you need to either go for this or continue the search. Good luck but keep $10K in your pocket for the next 2 years for maintenance.

 

Honestly I'd pass. You can find one that doesn't need this work. Around here, a top installed would be $3500. The front suspension, $3k. The rear brakes, $500. Battery is $250 for a nice Interstate. The scuffed bolster *could* be touched up with a leather dye kit, but the longest term fix is just replacing the section.

Yes, you can do these fixes. You can make it done over your time, but why pay fixed prices for needs work cars? I am DIY girl from little stuff to full restorations really only outsourcing internal engine machine work. You need to estimate the worst in order to get a good price and cover the unknowns, and for me, the price on that car would be $14k, and its unlikely they will go that low. I paid $20k for my 2007 XKR w/ 50k on it 2 years ago, and I've done a detail on it, basic routine maintenance (filters, fluids, belts), and had to pay to refinish the wheels at $400. The only repairs I've had to do are: coolant overflow tank developed a leak at the bleed screw and I replaced the tank, and a set of TPMS sensors.

Jaguars really aren't a good deal as fixers most of the time. In my sig, the Nissans and BMW were fixers as I like cheap daily cars (I bought Nissans for my parents), and fixed I have less than half their craigslist punter resale price in them. Theres a lot more margin in cheap cars surprisingly, partially since parts are so cheap, and sellers often just want them gone rather than act all "I know what I got".

 

That is for the thoughts! I do have a general question when buying these cars specifically, does it make sense to pay 22k (the next cheapest vert I have found that matches some criteria) instead of paying the discounted price and doing some work? If I am going to spend the 4k price difference anyway, does it matter to pay it for repairs vs initial price given how good other parts of the car are?

I do appreciate the input!

 

Take your emotion out of it. That will answer your question.
I use NADA for pricing. Car Gurus will give you fair pricing info as well (it'll tell you if the asking is fair based on similar sales in the area but I suspect they combine some national sales as these cars are not common.) Dealerships use NADA for pricing and they buy many of these cars at auction. They don't care if it's gold or red when they're buying.

You ask someone here whose XK is the car of their dreams and they will say yes. Someone else who paid an additional $4k after the sale to get it repaired, might tell you no.

In the end it's just a car. If you find one you like, price it against NADA and take it from there. By all means, if you find more, post them here. No one in the forum is going to poach you. We already have ours.

 

My biggest worry on the car you're looking at is the top repair. Generally when half-assery like that is seen, it's a tip of a crap-berg.

 

Don't get into a car with any repair situation unless you are professional mechanic. If you were, you wouldn't be asking these questions.

Pay an honest price for a honest car is the safest bet.

 

Here, look into this one

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/market/232454

 

Beautiful car! Not my interior color and miles above my pricepoint :-) but it really is sharp

As an update, after a few days back and forth with the dealer as well as a conversation with my trusted indy dealer and a few wrench turning buddies, I put a deposit on this car and am traveling down to Dallas to take a closer look on Saturday. Assuming the repair work we agreed upon is done well and everything is up to snuff, my buddy and I are driving it home this weekend! Out the door price (taxes, title etc included) is 19,000, Dealer is replacing the battery, repairing the exhaust, adding a new air filter. They knocked the price of a new roof off of the sales price essentially.

I looked at two other cars that caught my eye in the mean time, and while nicer in come ways, had more red flags (Fleet cars and accidents) and the discussion with dealers wasn't as good or forthcoming. There may be a better car out there, no doubt. But for the price, the upfront use ability and the enjoyment of using it and working on it, this seems like a good purchase. I am very excited to be part of the forum!

 

So this is the one?

https://www.jdpower.com/detail/2011/...wa4gb5blb39990

 

It is that one yes. I am curious to know why the condition is rated "fair", is that based on miles? I have never used jd power for this before.

As a note, I am very prepared to walk away if something isn't up to snuff or the condition is worse/the inspector missed something. 7k miles a year is probably what I would put on it as well

 

likely post 25 and 28 and the condition of the paint. Pics lie big time but from the pics I see in the listing, paint isn't in great condition. Look at the hood. Just guessing of course but even KBB dings you for body condition (pun not intended).

Also in the FWIW category, is that 2 year maintenance plan worth anything to you if it can only be serviced at that dealer?

 

Sadly, no the maintenance plan isn't worth much to me. Figure there is no need to commute down to Texas for an oil change but I have also found that dealers add stuff like that all the time without really meaning much. Who knows though, I might road trip down there again to visit friends.

As for the paint, yeah, not sure about that. The inspector said it was in pretty good condition actually all original no work done, (he measured thickness) I wonder if it is mostly just dirty and poorly cleaned by the dealer (I see wipe streaks I one of the pictures from quick detailer I assume) either way, a weekend witha. Claybar and a polishing wheel will do wonders I am sure. And there are a few places that do paint correction as well near me if it is really bad

 

yes especially if it hasn't been cut and polished before. I should have elaborated on the maintenance. We know it's worthless and so do they but consider using it as a bargaining tool. Good luck with it. I hope t works out.

 

Sounds good. Let us know how ou liked the drive home. These are great road cars. Also some pics please.

 

Bon voyage! Texas to Michigan in a Jaguar...a fine activity in these time!

 

Damn, I just opened this thread for the first time. Carrollton is about 10 miles from me. I would have gone over there and taken a look for you. Anyways. Congrats and enjoy!

 

They are open until 7 if you feel like popping down I appreciate he offer though! I still have to give it a personal once over, so we will see if i end upwith it or not. I am excited to go on the trip though. Will be I teresting to see if it ends up alright!