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Georgia Mac 04-03-2024 02:14 PM

Convertible Headliner
 
Looking for a part number for a retention spring that holds the headliner rear flaps to rear quarter window frame

McJag222 04-03-2024 10:03 PM

Posting a pic might help.

Stuart S 04-04-2024 07:30 AM

Welcome to the Forum, Mac. Your Public Profile shows that you have a 2007 XKR Convertible,. It would be helpful if you created a signature that included details about your car (colors, miles, etc.).

You can look online at OEM Jaguar parts sellers and see if there's a parts diagram that references that PN. By my tagging Steve @WhiteXKR , a.k.a. The Jag Wrangler and the Forum's convertible top guru and inventor of the remote control top and rear window controller, he may be able to answer your question. If that spring is no longer available, a local auto upholstery/top installation shop should be able to help.

It's what the factory forgot.

Georgia Mac 04-07-2024 03:57 PM

Spring has stretched out it holds bolster of headliner in located at rear of roof as
 

Originally Posted by McJag222 (Post 2737544)
Posting a pic might help.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...8dc68cbc2.jpeg
From rear of roof small spring in center of photo

kj07xk 04-07-2024 06:28 PM

Both sides are ‘stretched’?
Wondering what the problem looks like. Do you have a photo with the top up, showing the ‘flaps’ you are referring to?

McJag222 04-07-2024 07:03 PM

I don't see any springs in the JPART catalogue or in the pic for the top from here:

https://parts.harperjaguar.com/oem-p...op-c2p21427yua
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...e74f87a9d6.jpg

What does the other side look like?

Stuart S 04-07-2024 09:33 PM

It's interesting that the JPART Catalog doesn't show that spring.

@Georgia Mac Do you know if a previous owner replaced the original top? If you don't, you can tell from the lower left corner (driver's side) of the rear glass. If it's not etched with the Jaguar name, it's an aftermarket top that's probably not identical in construction to the OEM top. Here's mine:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...93ac3dc2d2.jpg

Stuart

kj07xk 04-08-2024 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Georgia Mac (Post 2738586)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...8dc68cbc2.jpeg
From rear of roof small spring in center of photo

My top is original, and that spring is there, but doesn’t appear stretched at all during the opening/closing sequence:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...129f7c7fc.jpeg

kj07xk 04-08-2024 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by McJag222 (Post 2738637)

The spring is probably not a separate part, and is included in #1.
I’d check local hardware stores and online sources for a similar sized spring, if that is the source of the problem.
But the tension that appears on the users spring, compared to the lack of tension on mine, makes me think the problem is something else, e.g. why is there so much tension on that spring?

kj07xk 04-08-2024 06:19 PM

Again, a picture of the so called ‘flaps’ would be useful.

Georgia Mac 04-11-2024 09:52 AM

Headliner spring tensioner
 

Originally Posted by kj07xk (Post 2738933)
My top is original, and that spring is there, but doesn’t appear stretched at all during the opening/closing sequence:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...129f7c7fc.jpeg

The spring in your picture is the correct spring, we had a large painting in the back seat with the roof open and then closed the roof on it and it stopped part way up. The springs on both sides were stretched out of shape and will not return to original shape. Don't know the part number or the original size. If you could measure your spring with no tension and take a closer picture I may find a replacement at a hardware shop. I found an online post in the Jaguar forum from 2014 by NGARARA with a diagram of the headliner and spring but no part number Just the Page Number E67556 have not been able to contact NGARARA. Thanks for your help

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...40446354b5.png



slick.one 04-11-2024 10:56 AM

The black cloth strap the spring is attached to ripped on my top. I still haven't fixed it because I'm going to need a new top soon. The strap and spring keep the back of the top snug to the body and I would think under certain circumstances water could get under the top. I also think the spring could be easily found at a good hardware store.

Stuart S 04-11-2024 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Georgia Mac (Post 2739713)
... I found an online post in the Jaguar forum from 2014 by NGARARA with a diagram of the headliner and spring but no part number Just the Page Number E67556 have not been able to contact NGARARA. ...

Sadly, he passed away several years ago. He was a knowledgeable and frequent contributor to this Forum.

kj07xk 04-11-2024 05:08 PM

Ok, must have really stretched out that spring to get it to not return.
You can zoom in on my original picture for a closer look at what it should be. You can look at the end loops of your spring to get the diameter.
The shot below is a frame from a video as I stuck my hand in there with a ruler as the top was opening. Maybe not exact, as my hand probably didn’t get all the way in there before I had to pull it out. Looks like about 3/4 inch coiled part. To be sure, take yours out and compress it to measure it.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...20f535965f.png

Georgia Mac 04-12-2024 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by kj07xk (Post 2739827)
Ok, must have really stretched out that spring to get it to not return.
You can zoom in on my original picture for a closer look at what it should be. You can look at the end loops of your spring to get the diameter.
The shot below is a frame from a video as I stuck my hand in there with a ruler as the top was opening. Maybe not exact, as my hand probably didn’t get all the way in there before I had to pull it out. Looks like about 3/4 inch coiled part. To be sure, take yours out and compress it to measure it.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...20f535965f.png

Thanks your help is greatly appreciated


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